Why would you do that? Not all drafts are the same. This has been touted as one if the best drafts in recent history. Our GM went up to get a specific player he targeted. Completely different
He's pretty good inside. He swings at the ball too much, but he seems to have good interior defensive insticts. His perimter defense is ok, but needs work.
Pat actually shoots better in real games than this summer league rat ball nonsense. He can't create his own shots, but playing next to Lillard and McCollum, or even Napier, he gets his shots in the flow of the offense and knocks them down. Some guys just play much better in a structured environment. Pat seems to be one of those guys. Layman, on the other hand, looks like Victor Claver 2.0. Looks like a basketball player, supposedly a great shooter in practice, but can't hit shit in a game - any game. Other than his miracle first 8 minutes, he has shot like shit in garbage time, in the D League and now the summer league. Even if you include his 6-8 debut he shot .255 3FG% as a rookie. Other than that one first game, since Nov. 1 last year he has shot: NBA: 8 for 44 3FG .182 3FG% D League: 12 for 53 3FG .226 3FG% Summer League: 2 for 11 3FG .182 3FG% Total: 22 for 108 3FG .204 3FG% And it's not like he hasn't had his chances. He shoots early and often, he has good form and appears to shoot with confidence - he certainly doesn't hesitate. The ball just does't go in the basket. BNM
Again, I'm not saying that he can't shoot. I'm saying, as a rule of thumb, it's not a good idea to use shooting in practice as a measuring stick. Nothing more, nothing less.
There have been other deep drafts in the last 20 years, but very few #10 picks, regardless of draft depth, have had a significant impact as NBA rookies. Collins was not drafted to be a difference maker this year. He is young and inexperienced even compared to other #10 picks. Why would you, or anyone else, judge him after two summer league games? BNM
If you mean, it's not a good idea to use shooting in practice as YOUR ONLY measuring stick, I agree. It not, I don't. Simple.
Olshey drafted him for his defense and so far he hasn't disappoint and when get stronger he will be really good anchor behind Nurk.
Because I am a FANatic, and that's all I have to go by. Other bigs have looked very good. He hasn't offensively, and his body language sucks.
He's 19 Batum was 19 in his first SPL and he stunk it up most heinously - played himself into the starting SF (during fall camp) by opening night.
Yep, and Qyntel Woods was a summer league stud. Players like Batum (and Collins) do much better in a structured environment. Players like Woods excel at rat ball. KAT looked like shit in summer league, but won ROY. Summer League Bayless looked a lot more like Real Russel Westbrook than Summer League Westbrook did. Randy Foye, Adam Morrison, Jeremy Lamb and Kris Dunn all looked better in summer league than Steph Curry did. I could go on. There are literally over 100 examples of why summer league stats are less than meaningless. Everyone at least seems to agree that Collins looks to have good potential on the defensive side off the ball. Offensively, I don't think it's unreasonable to think he will look better once: He's playing with real guards who can get him the ball in a position to score He is playing with teammates that can make a wide open shot that will help space the floor He's playing in a structured offense that actually runs some plays He gets more playing time under his belt to adjust to the faster pace and stronger, more athletic competition He stops pressing and realizes it's an 82-game schedule BNM
No, I'm not jumping the gun. My comment said nor implied anything about "giving up" on him. I simply said his performance was disappointing, and we've seen 10 day contract type players play better.
