Nate Robinson wants to be a Blazer (merged)

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  1. Sinobas

    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    Ya? Well I don't trust Nate's judgement to nix our mastermind GMs trade ideas.

    Nate falls in love with certain players that don't necessarily deserve it, we all know that.
     
  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I hear people say this all the time but I've never seen any evidence. Fact of the matter Steve may not be the best point guard in the world, but considering the stable of underachievers and inexperience he's had to work with I can see why Nate started Blake over Jarret, Sergio and Jerryd.

    I thought about it a little and I'm guessing that if the deal didn't get done it may have had more to do with the fact that sending Steve Blake and Travis out for just a point guard would have left us with Channing Frye to absorb the remaining power forward minutes and basically no one to play small forward besides Nicolas. Travis can be maddening with his inconsistency, but it wouldn't have been easy or guaranteed that we could have replaced his 12 points per game -- not in mid-stream anyway.
     
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    with Thad Young in the fold, why would the 6ers want Travis? Certainly Blake is a step down from Miller.

    This NY rumor doesn't pass the smell test

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  4. Foulzilla

    Foulzilla No Blood, No Foul.

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    I dunno, I can kinda see the value for Philly. They apparently have no plans to resign Miller, so this rumored trade gives them something of value for him instead of just losing him. Blake gives them a replacement at point, presumably to backup Williams whom they are high on. Outlaw can play the 3/4 just like Young, so they could play together at times, and regardless give them a pretty good 3 man rotation at the forward spots when combined with Brand. Most importantly, Outlaw gives them what they need the most. An actual 3-point threat.

    I'm not saying it definitely makes sense for them, but I can see why they would consider it.
     
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    I like Nate and would love to see him in a Blazer uniform, but I doubt he is willing to take the price we offer. I agree that if he wants to be here, that is a plus.
     
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    J Jack is the biggest example I can think of.
     
  7. RickyRubio

    RickyRubio He Hate Me

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    I honestly wouldn't mind having him on the team. He is an explosive little bastard!!!!!1 Just depends on what we would have to give up to get him.
     
  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Dixon in '06-'07 (got traded).
    Jack in '07-'08 (got traded).
    Outlaw in '08-'09 (getting traded?)

    I wonder who it will be next year...
     
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    I think there is a clear message being sent
     
  10. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    But who was going to play over him? Sergio? Give me a break. As turnover prone and inconsistent as Jack could be, he was still the best option available in a 3 guard rotation of he, Roy, and Blake the year before. I think you're confusing "in love" with "no other choice."
     
  11. BrianFromWA

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    I agree with the "no other choice" thing, but when he put Sergio at SG so that JJ could play the point? Seriously?
     
  12. LittleAlex

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    I think it wasn't so much that he played, it's that he played so damn much and in end-of-game situations where he could commit his timely errors and cost the team the game.

    Personally, I would have rather seen a B-Roy Martell back-court.
     
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    Yes, Jack had some turnovers. He also was one of the best we had at getting to the line and making his FTs. If a guy gets hacked in a late game situation and doesn't hit the FTs, that is no different than a turnover. ("cough" Blake "cough")
     
  14. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That would have been awful; Martell in his first three years never showed that he could consistently put the ball on the floor and drive or create his own shot -- and it's this ability to create their own shot and/or drive and draw a foul which made Nate decide to put Jack on the court at the end of games two years ago.

    This is also the reason Travis was in at the end of games over Nicolas this season.
     
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    No more awful the J Jack was. You are correct that Portland didn't have a whole lot of options in the back-court that year. B-Roy/Martell would have been the lesser of two evils.
     
  16. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Jarret Jack was an easy target because of bone-headed turnovers and an almost pathological inability to run or finish a fast break, but his 85% free throw shooting and ability to dribble drive was a weapon -- that weapon might have been a rusty steak knife in terms of its 'lethality' -- he wasn't as bad as people like to make him out to be, just like Martell has never been as good (in terms of efficiency) as he seems to be viewed through the blurry lens of a 13 month absence from the court.
     
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    My first response, was that some folks are going to be really disappointed when Webster actually starts playing again.

    My second response, is that it won't matter. People will just make excuses because of his injury. :sigh:
     
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    :biglaugh: That is a great description. I am still trying to figure out why people projected Webster as a 2 guard when he first came into the league. He isn't even a good ballhandler/playmaker as a 3!
     
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    I would LOVE to see Nate Robinson in a Trail Blazer uni! He brings it, his passion on the court is second to none. I'll take him over Bayless, Rudy, and Webster all day long. He'll be a free agent this offseason!
     
  20. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I think he could be a useful piece for sure, but I can barely see any scenario where we'd end up with him, not unless a ton of trades are worked out.
     

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