Wanting someone to be held accountable for their actions and wanting someone to go to jail are two different things. There is very little data to support that the threat incarceration prevents someone from doing an illegal act or having been incarceration reduces a persons probability of breaking the law again. We spend lot of money on something that may have a net negative impact on society, which is kinda strange to me.
I certainly don't have you on ignore and are not considering it, but I understand the idea: you've been a broken record for months now.
It must of been me posting 18 times a day to Fire Stotts EVERYDAY for 6 straight months. Oh wait that wasn’t me. Because I can understand how THAT would get frustrating and would make somebody want to put somebody on ignore.
haha many people drive me crazy here too, but you gotta know how to roll with the punches. It's funny seeing some of them get riled up over something so silly, I'm going to act like I'm 12 and going to ignore you now! I get a nice laugh out of it over and over, I had my fun in the Simmons thread the other week
However, this story is concerning to those that care about Pro Basketball. (and that is all). This story is juicy, if you are a insurance fraud investigator.
I believe the threat of incarnation does prevent white collar crimes such as financial fraud. The other example I stated of Martha Stewart going to jail for illegal insider trading is a public deterrent that I've seen helps people understand the consequences of insider trading when I discuss these situations in my profession. Just because you think there is "little data" to support that belief, doesn't disapprove my belief. I understand I don't know everything, I'm not all knowing, and there is much I can learn. I'm all for someone showing me evidence that changes my belief, but until I have seen that I will use my best imperfect beliefs on how we should have public policy enforced and crimes sentenced. If these accused ex players are convicted of insurance fraud I'm all for a judge sentencing them to prison if that is the most appropriate sentence a judge, the prosecution, and the legal system come up with.
I've always thought we should bring back something like public stocks again; put the offender out there in the town square for 72 hours. Very little cost to the public and I think it could be a real deterrent.
If convicted should these people go to prison? HELL YES! This wasn't an act of desperation. They weren't forced to do this out of need. They've mismanaged their money and decided to steal more. We have a pretty screwed-up health care system in this country. The leading cause of bankruptcy is medical bills. And these bankruptcies aren't from people with no health insurance. They're coming from people with health insurance but that health insurance isn't coming anywhere close to covering their bills. Health care fraud exasperates this problem. Health care fraud raises the prices of health care itself and health insurance. And again, this isn't like Darius Miles' daughter had cancer or something like that. Because if it was something like he would have gone to the press and set up a GoFundMe. Because being a former player with some celebrity gives him that ability. I completely agree that we send far too many to prison. But these idiots are not the rallying call for that. These idiots need to be the example for future athletes that time and money are fleeting.
I’m not sure you understand what happened here. They didn’t steal from the NBA. They filed false claims to an insurance company and pocketed the money. I don’t know what you do for a living but if you owned a business and 18 guys stole a total of $4,000,000 from you, wouldn’t you want them in jail?
Honestly? The first thing I would want is my $4 million back! If that isn't enough, seize their assets and leave them living in a cardboard box under a bridge.
To answer your question of course I wouldn't want them in jail. I would want restitution and then for them to be in counseling and closely supervised and forced to contribute to society in a probation system. Revenge is a fools game, punishment is revenge. I want justice and then I want people to do better. We think caging people is a smart response to shit like this but it could not be more counterproductive.
