No, you're blowing it out of proportion. Athleticism is helpful, but when you're the far superior team, it shouldn't make a difference. The fact of the matter is that the Celtics were a much better team than the Hawks and the Cavs but they played liek total garbage when they weren't in Boston. When you're a 66 win team, there's no excuse for a 37 and 45 win teams to give you as many fits as they did. No reason, no excuse at all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Jun 9 2008, 12:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 9 2008, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Jun 9 2008, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>To whoever thinks the Lakers had an easier road to the Finals, lay off the drugs. I'd much rather face the Hawks/Cavs/Pistons than the Nuggets/Jazz/Spurs. There's a huge difference between the route being easier and making it look easier. The Lakers had a much tougher route to the Finals, but they just played out of their mind during the first three rounds and made it look easy. The Celtics, on the other hand, forgot how to win on the road and let far inferior teams win games. And that's why I still the Lakers can win this series. We seem to forget that just over a month ago the Celtics were in the process of playing the Hawks, let me repeat that, the Hawks, in a game 7. The Hawks, who had 29 less wins than the Celtics, the same Hawks whom everyone predicted would be swept. They came back after being down 2-0 and sent it to a game seven. The Cavs were in the same situation. A highly inferior team that went down 2-0 and managed to make it to game 7, despite the fact that LeBron played like garbage. This is why I'm not worried right now. The Celtics, all postseason, have been letting teams back into series. And not just teams, but bad teams. The Hawks were not a good team and didn't even belong in the playoffs with their whopping 37 wins and the Cavs were basically a one man show all season. Based on the current body of work, I see no reason why the Lakers can't get back in to this series. They just have to win it, something the other teams haven't done. Thankfully, the Lakers are much better than the Hawks and Cavs.</div> It's called match-up. Celtics are bad against athletic teams, and they faced to of the more athletic teams. </div> How do you say it was just match up problems? I don't buy that. I know they don't fare well against athletic teams, but that can't be used as an excuse to let two team HIGHLY inferior teams push you to seven games. Nor is it an excuse to start the NBA playoffs what, 0-7 on the road. </div> Yes, they did play poorly against Hawks and Cavs for stretches. But they absolutely schooled Detroit, a much tougher opponent, and now they are schooling LA, a team that many picked to win this in 5 or 6. Typically, that shows growth. Doc Rivers is an idiot coach, but somehow this team looked better against Detroit and LA than it did during the 1st round and semis. LA still made the same mistakes against SA they were making against Nuggets and Jazz. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Jun 9 2008, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, you're blowing it out of proportion. Athleticism is helpful, but when you're the far superior team, it shouldn't make a difference. The fact of the matter is that the Celtics were a much better team than the Hawks and the Cavs but they played liek total garbage when they weren't in Boston. When you're a 66 win team, there's no excuse for a 37 and 45 win teams to give you as many fits as they did. No reason, no excuse at all.</div> Hah. Tell that to Dallas last year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Jun 9 2008, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, you're blowing it out of proportion. Athleticism is helpful, but when you're the far superior team, it shouldn't make a difference. The fact of the matter is that the Celtics were a much better team than the Hawks and the Cavs but they played liek total garbage when they weren't in Boston. When you're a 66 win team, there's no excuse for a 37 and 45 win teams to give you as many fits as they did. No reason, no excuse at all.</div> I think it waz more of the Hawks and Cavs being taken lightly Celtics didn't take any of these early round seriously, since they caked-walked through the whole regular season, so they probably were looking ahead to the to the Piston. When they played the Piston you saw the real 66 win team.
I disagree, to a point. They still played pretty poorly against the Pistons. They blew a couple of big leads against the Pistons. You also have to remember that they went six against a Pistons team who's best player was playing at about 70% or so. Hell, Rasheed Wallace forgot how to play while he was at it as well. I don't think we really saw the real Celts until the end of that series, and even then, the Pistons gave them hell to the end. But you are right, they took the first two rounds lightly, which is why I still think they're going to choke. You shouldn't take any opponent lightly, regardless of how bad they are or how much better you are than them. To me, this shows that Boston is a mentally unstable team. And if you're not mentally tough, you're going to have your issues, and they have, especially on the road. The Celtics, to a point, remind me a lot of the Pistons. They have a tendency to downplay their opponent, and if they do that against the Lakers, which they did in the fourth quarter, things might not end well for them.
Hey since there is so much WHINE in this thread, I thought I'd bring some cheese gawd, when you take 25% of your shots from the 3pt line, what kind of FT's do you expect to get? All the Celtics need to do is win one in LA and this series is over!! HELLLLOOO #17
Soooo close... that comeback was amazing. I can't hang my head right now. We are still in this guys! Laker Faith!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jun 9 2008, 04:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey since there is so much WHINE in this thread, I thought I'd bring some cheese gawd, when you take 25% of your shots from the 3pt line, what kind of FT's do you expect to get? All the Celtics need to do is win one in LA and this series is over!! HELLLLOOO #17</div> 11 of the 21 3 point shots were in the 4th quarter when they were making the comeback. The Lakers were taking it in but getting no calls at all.
I'm actually happy about the comeback, no chance the Celtics are feeling content over a 20 pt blowout, they're going to be focused come game 3 and win at least one in LA.
I don't really care about those 1950's/60's championships either. One less round in the post-season as well. Modern day titles are where it's at.
Pegs is the king of bitching and whining lol. It gets tiring reading the same thing 30 times in one thread lol. If you look at the players: Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins, Powe, Pierce like attacking the paint. KG is a finess big, and Allen prefers jumpshots. PJ and Posey do a bit of both. Cassell likes 3s. Vujacic, Fisher, Radman, all prefer being on the perimeter, and sometimes Farmar falls in love with 3s (although he hit 3-4 last game). Odom and Gasol are finess bigs, and Kobe prefers jumpshots. Turiaf attacks the paint, and if Bynum was around that, he is the low post threat all the time.
Holy shit, I was the champ of a nine team league during the 60's. Someone pat me on the ****ing back already and give me one of Red's cigars.
I can't believe I fell asleep before a Lakers comeback. Damn that sucks. That was a horribly officiated game, but the Lakers did play terrible D for most of the game. I realize that the referees were enforcing two different standards of physicality, but that doesn't excuse giving up on plays, not rotating quickly enough, and letting the Celtics jump out on the break so often. They'll need to really address that on their home court, because their defense has been subpar in the first two games of this series. I like how right after I defended the officiating for being reasonably fair in Game 1, they come out and almost totally ruin Game 2 for me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 9 2008, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't really care about those 1950's/60's championships either. One less round in the post-season as well. Modern day titles are where it's at.</div> whatever helps you sleep at night. one could say it was HARDER to do so then because the teams were more talented, definitely more cohesive without FA around and not diluted due to over expansion like the league has been for the past 15 years.. especially in the early 2000's.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jun 9 2008, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 9 2008, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't really care about those 1950's/60's championships either. One less round in the post-season as well. Modern day titles are where it's at.</div> whatever helps you sleep at night. one could say it was HARDER to do so then because the teams were more talented, definitely more cohesive without FA around and not diluted due to over expansion like the league has been for the past 15 years.. especially in the early 2000's. </div> Uh no, and more segregated. You can try to ignore the low amount of teams all you want.
If you weren't around to experience your teams championships, I don't know why you'd be bragging about them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 9 2008, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you weren't around to experience your teams championships, I don't know why you'd be bragging about them.</div> well I have been around to see the Celtics win titles, all 16 no? but 2 dismissing an era simply because you weren't there for it is asinine and ignorant.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jun 9 2008, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 9 2008, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you weren't around to experience your teams championships, I don't know why you'd be bragging about them.</div> well I have been around to see the Celtics win titles, all 16 no? but 2 dismissing an era simply because you weren't there for it is asinine and ignorant. </div> Dismissing segregation, and the different rules/situations in that era, is ignorant to me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe needs to stop taking those fuckin' fadaways and start driving in. This game is frustrating me.</div> The bottom line is the lakers have yet to figure out the boston defense. Me and my boys were watching the game and there were only 2 times that we counted where Kobe got an "easy" bucket. He got his 30 last night, but it was an ugly ass 30.....I think Boston is ending this in L.A. The FT disparity ain't no conspiracy, it's just that one team took it to the basket and the other didn't.....I'm sure more calls will go the Lakers way back in L.A., but if they continue to hoist up jumpers don't expect to win the FT battle.......The first 2 playoff series Ray Allen was a no show. That hasn't been the case in this series and the last. Boston is a totally different team when Jesus comes down from calvary. When dude is intense on both ends of the floor it makes a big ass difference.......As much as I hate everything from Boston, I just don't see how the Lake show is winning this series....I mean their most impressive quarter came when Boston was basically on cruise control............... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Anyways, I'm glad the Lakers are starting to play now. If we don't complete the comeback, maybe we'll have at least SOME momentum going in to game three with the way we've chipped in to this lead</div> I see what you're tryin to say, but I'm just not buying the whole confidence thing, celtics just relaxed.....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, they did play poorly against Hawks and Cavs for stretches. But they absolutely schooled Detroit, a much tougher opponent, and now they are schooling LA, a team that many picked to win this in 5 or 6. Typically, that shows growth.</div> I agree. Like I said this isn't the same Boston team from the first 2 rounds.....they're "peaking" at the right time.
