NBA GMs vote Aldridge as the game's best PF (in a tie with Blake Griffin)

Aldridge played only 2 more games than Davis last year

Davis is always injured :MARIS61:

 

Best, no. Most potential, yes.

Sorry, but to be the best player at your position in the entire league you need to win, and Davis hasn't. Yes, basketball is a team sport, but the BEST players make their teammates better.

Has Davis lead his team to a winning record? No.

Has Davis lead his team to the playoffs? No.

Has Davis put up back-to-back games of 46 and 43 in leading his team to two playoff victories on the road? No.

Has Davis blocked 16 shots in a playoff series? No.

Has Davis led his team to the second round? No.

The "best" produce results. Davis has yet to do so. He's been in the league two years. In those two years his team has a 61-103 record. How can he possibly be the best at his position if he doesn't help his team win more than 37% of their games? This is the same argument most here have made against Kevin Love, gaudy stats on a losing team. When he starts putting up gaudy stats on a winning team, he enters the conversation as the best at his position. Great players produce great results, they don't need excuses.

Davis definitely has the potential to be the best at his position, but he's not there yet. His offensive game is immature. He's a very opportunistic, efficient scorer, but he doesn't have the kind of game where you can feed him the ball over and over in the 4th quarter and ride him to victory. He doesn't have a "go to" move and at 6'10", 220, he has trouble establishing deep post position against bigger, stronger players.

On defense, he's a great help/weak side defender, one of the best in the league (along with Serge Ibaka). Like Ibaka, his man-to-man defense isn't nearly as exceptional as he gets pushed around by bigger, stronger players.

Yes, the kid has a ton of potential, he is already talented and incredibly young. Before he can be the best at his position, he needs to get stronger, develop a more well rounded game and show that he can be healthy. In two seasons, he's missed 33 games. Not exactly Greg Oden injury issues, but when you're in street clothes, you're not helping your team win.

I hope he can get, and stay healthy. He is a very gifted athlete with a ton of potential, but he needs to translate that athleticism and potential into wins before he can be declare the best at his position in the entire NBA. I hope he gets there, but he's not there, yet. Will this be the year? Maybe next year? It took Aldridge 8 seasons and an historic playoff performance to earn the title of best power forward in the NBA. Davis may get there, and he may get there sooner, but he needs to earn it by turning his potential into on-court results.

BNM

 

Actually, Aldridge played 13 more games than Davis. Aldridge led his team to the second round while Davis was home hoping his team did well in the lottery.

BNM

 

BNM is in midseason form. Dropping rhetorical questions and dropping huge ass responses already.

#dedication

 

So I just read a whole lot of elementary analysis

The Blazers hadn't made the playoffs in a couple years. That entire time people on here were arguing that Aldridge was the best PF, yet the Blazers weren't even in the playoffs.

So the second his team makes the playoffs, all of the sudden we use the playoff card now? Am I reading that right?

The Blazers won 33 games in the 2012-2013 season. I'm assuming Aldridge was still awesome and the same player then?

The Hornets won 34 game last year. All of the sudden Davis isn't a winner and it's held against him?

This forum can't keep it's bullshit/homer opinions in line and it makes this forum a hard place to get some real discussion going.

But I already knew that.

 

No one was arguing Aldridge was the Best PF in the game when we were lottery bound. We definitely argued he should be in the All star game though.

Davis statistically isn't even better than Aldridge right now, let alone intangibles.

Take this weak ass game somewhere else. Maybe a Laker forum where fans don't know shit about this game.

 

Link please. Otherwise you are just using here say

 

Flawed premise == erroneous conclusion.

This is not about what fans think. They are USUALLY (but obviously, not always) going to favor the players on their team. Read the title of the thread. Aldridge was voted best PF in the league by NBA general managers. Feel free to continue to condescend to the fans of the team all you like, it does nothing to change the opinions of the GMs who get paid big bucks to build NBA rosters. Those GMs, not the fans, voted Aldridge, not Anthony Davis, the best power forward in the league.

And yes, it took Aldridge proving he could perform in the post season to convince those GMs he is now the best power forward in the game. Maybe once Anthony Davis does the same, they'll vote for him.

BNM

 

It's called a strawman. A technique favored by the banned poster formerly known as PapaG.

BNM

 

Yeah Roytoy is notorious for this type of debating

 

Well then, if that's the way you feel, perhaps you'd be happier posting elsewhere.

Funny though, how those bullshit/homer opinions line up with the opinions of NBA GM's and yours don't...

BNM

 

Ohhhhh buuuuuurrrrrn!!!

 

I'm in the Davis camp just because he makes the game easy for himself and plays the two way game better than Aldridge IMHO. I love LA but he takes a lot of shots that aren't what I'd call high percentage looks but he does nail them a decent clip which is why he is my number 2. Also, it took 8 seasons for Aldridge to average double figures in rebounding, Davis did it in his second... Davis also blocked ~3 shots a game last year, got decent steal numbers for a big man and only fouled averaged 3 fouls per game while being so aggressive. However, he does need to bulk up but look at LA when he was 21 and they aren't so different in the body dept (LA might've been thinner even).

 

No. He wasn't. Last year's Aldridge was MUCH improved from 2012-13 Aldridge. A simple look at stats could show you that. Two more points a game, two more rebounds a game. But also- last year wasn't Aldridge's first time in the playoffs. He has gone to the playoffs FOUR times. Davis has yet to show that he can deliver in big games. Has he ever scored 40+ in back to back wins on the road? Once he shows that, he will be on Aldridge's level.

 

Find your own link. I know for a fact he's been debated as the best PF in the league on this forum for 2-3 years.

 

Aldridge was much less efficient last year. Basically he took more shots with a much lower FG%. It's not a great trade off.

 

There is no question that 2nd year Davis was better than 2nd year Aldridge but Davis isn't close to this year's Aldridge.

 

Nah I'll just file your banter as bullshit like it always is. You claimed people said this, which I say is false. The burden of proof is on you to support your claim.

 

54 wins
Back to back 40+ in wins of the road
3 time All Star (Davis was an injury replacement)
Third Team All NBA

Davis has done none of this.