How does this help us know if a two can guard a 3 on switches... In another thread some where you literally say “height doesn’t matter they don’t play with the top of their heads”, now you’re saying knowing their height is going to help us know if a two can guard a three on switches...
You just stated "For the most part we're probably talking on average at most an inch and probably less". Apparently proving your point is showing yourself to be completely wrong, which is par for the course with our discussions. Math says that on average it's double what you just claimed. For the 3 most recent Blazer 1st rounders, the difference was 1.75" twice and 2.5" for Little. I now see that more official listings have Little at 1.5" over his barefoot measurement... I got lazy and just punched his name into google but again, my overall point is that I want one set of accurate baseline facts. No I didn't (obviously) and have stated my dislike for the w/shoes measurement listings in our previous back and forths. It's on you that I have to keep repeating points that you can't remember. I'm happy the league has come to it's senses and is requiring barefoot measurements, which is why I started this thread... this shouldn't have to be explained. Again, you just claimed in your previous post that the difference between current listings and barefoot would be "at most an inch and probably less." Can you keep anything straight? It doesn't, but thats not whats being discussed. I'm hopeful a single accurate set of facts will help cut down completely inane discussions like this one... but that seems to be your thing. STOMP
For the record, I like this move by the NBA. I think more accurate data is always better than less accurate data. It’ll also be interesting to see some of these numbers some of the guys that say they’re like 6’6, I look at and think eh that’s a stretch.
I looked it up to correct myself you said. Which I somewhat agree with that assessment, but whatever.
I doubt I said it "doesn't matter", more likely that it's not as important as other metrics like weight, wingspan and standing reach. If we know a two guard is on the short, light and not so long side relative to other wings, we can reasonably guess he's going to struggle guarding the bigger wings unless he's got off the charts athleticism that helps him compensate. Generally, I just like "facts" to be accurate so we can hang our hats on something in our discussions. STOMP
Fair enough and I went and fact checked myself as to what you had said. I’m all for getting more accurate data, even for nothing else but to know what they really are because being told a guy is a 7 footer when he clearly isn’t does get old:
Yeah there is a bunch more to it than just height. A total mismatch is still what it is when it's a 6 footer guarding a 7 footer. But this 1-2 inches here and there seems to be a bit overblown?
Obviously you misunderstood my point and maybe I didn't explain it well enough for you as your summary was not what I meant, but not interested enough to go back and explain further. Bottom line, accurate measurements are already available through the predraft camp for the majority of rookies coming in. Why is it important to know that Kwahi Leonard is maybe only 6'6" without shoes but is listed at 6'7"? Does that change your view of the player? If all measurements are done barefoot all players will be reduced by 1 to about 1.5" and I bet there will still be some fudging and rounding up as I doubt anyone will be monitoring it so a player measuring 6'5.5" will be listed at 6'6" and another one might be listed at 6'5" if he measures at 6'5.25", but in reality they are only 1/2" difference. There is maybe a handful of times that I might check a players height during the season, but there are so many factors besides just height that go into what to expect from a player. If an announcer calls a player like Collins a 7 footer, why does that bother you especially if you already know he isn't? Announcers sensationalize a lot more than just a players height and I really don't rely on them for that kind of info. If I need accurate info a quick search of the net usually gives me what I want. For the record, I measured out at 5'11.75" at my last doctor appointment (barefoot) but I consider myself a 6'. Shame on me. CUPWIZIER
The only accurate data that concerns me are the game stats for players and teams. How tall Zach Collins really means little to me and doesn't change how I watch a game.
Naw, I'm more into these. Those pointed toes are great for kicking asses like yours and the heel makes for a nice weapon as well.
oh, I could offer up a few reasons why, but I will take the high road and let it go. Have a nice night stomped. CUPWIZIER
