Again, it depends on what the Suns are actually looking for. Cap savings, picks and prospects? We got that. A star forward? Obviously we can't offer that. What do you think the Suns' asking price in an Oubre trade might be?
They wouldn't be giving up a 1st they'd be moving back though. I agree they wouldn't flat out give up a 1st. If the deal is horrible for both sides that probably means it's pretty fair, thanks!
Everybody is somehow missing/ignoring the part about getting our hands on the Hornets 1st round pick. I know this is supposed to be a weak draft, but this forum is going overboard in undervaluing draft picks.
If Olshey pulls off Whiteside and a 1st (maybe more picks) for Oubre, Baynes, and a min contract like Lecque/Diallo/etc (has to be one other min contract involved). Then ships whoever that 3rd guy is elsewhere or gives Hezonja/Swanigan to a 3rd team with a 2nd attached then he is a mastermind. We'd have the SF of the future, a really decent temporary C, AND duck the luxury tax. I doubt Phoenix would do that but it would basically solve all our problems other than health in one sequence.
This would be the ultimate home run! Do you think Neil is even trying though?? I feel like he is content after the 4 game win streak.
Not sure, I've kind of resigned myself to thinking they won't trade Whiteside (which would be a huge failure) but I also think someone like Oubre becoming available HOPEFULLY changes everything! Especially when that same team has a guy like Baynes who would be just fine as a stop gap.
But do you really think they'd swap Oubre for Whiteside when they're still trying to develop Ayton into a star center? I think any Whiteside-for-Oubre deal would have to involve Whiteside going to the third team.
I’d even love to keep Baynes as a backup to Nurk in the future... this is the perfect trade. Get it done Neil!
I literally said that I doubt Phoenix would do it in the post he responded to. The only reasoning I can think of is if they REALLY want Kennard from Detroit but also don't want to not have a 1st that getting a 1st from us, which would be about as good of one as they could hope to get, would allow them to throw the least favorable to Detroit and keep the other one.
Neil is using "discipline" as a guise for being lazy and extremely uncreative. This guy said after he signed Toliver that it's Dame's deepest team yet.
How committed are they to their wings if they're trying to trade for Kennard though? They never make sense.
I wouldn't begin to think i know the Sun's situation well enough to make an educated assessment of what they would be willing to do in a trade. It's not just cap, money, personnel needs and fit. It's also about people and what they are willing to do for a situation they might be in. Every trade deadline and every summer some team and or player surprises in the decisions made. Fun to watch yes. But that's it for me.
I assumed you're statement was about the specific combinations you listed, whereas I was asking more about the basic overall framework. Either way, seems we agree.