Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by kjironman1, Jan 10, 2024.

  1. Whyachi

    Whyachi Well-Known Member

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    Small ball 3 guard lineups can be high scoring basketball, but tend to get pummeled throughout the course of the year. Losing is good during a rebuild.

    Maybe Brogdon is totally down with faking injuries, sitting the final 15 games, and help the Blazers lose for the lottery?

    Cronin likes expensive Blazers like Brogdon. By forfeiting nationally televised games, a Blazer team that flirts with luxury tax creates massive revenue kickback for Jody Allen. The owner is happy, so Blazer fans should cheer up.

    Cronin's only job this year was duck the tax. A simple waiver and buyout of Timelord will produce enough cap space to sign all the new rookies and keep team revenue at maximum.
     
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    If the owners only concern is the bottom line, why are the Blazers the only team in the league that don’t have a corporate patch on their jersey for some easy revenue?
     
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    Shhhh!!! Doesn’t fit the narrative!
     
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    No TV coverage. It's too expensive. Convincing a company their logo will only be seen by Blazer fans, not on National TV, have probably been a series of unsuccessful meetings in Portland's Front Office.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    You were the one talking about other trades in comparison with what we could've hypothetically got for Brogdon. Cronin's contradictory messaging to me is clearly a reflection of him trying to move in two directions at once for the entirety of his tenure.
     
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    Correct. I wanted to include all the players that were traded today, if those players were of value to Portland, and if the teams that traded any players that may be of value to Portland would've been interested in Brogdon. You brought up one specific trade in an attempt to dismiss the broad thought exercise.
     
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    I would’ve obliged to PJ Washington for Brogdon type deal.
     
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    So he is maintaining flexibility and not painting his direction in a wall for all to see and thus, taking advantage of him. Weren’t many mad at Dame for forcing a single lane Joe had to take, making it harder to get max value, and now you want him to show his cards to not maintain that cloud to not potentially get max value?

    makes no sense to me.
     
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    Rather have a pick.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    This year doesn't matter.

    That included the trade deadline. It wasn't gonna be anything.

    This is the most stress free year as a fan and I love it.
     
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    Not having all the pressure on you in your first season seems to help some athletes. You see a pattern in QBs for example, that get drafted high and have to start year 1 for their crappy team, the pressure destroys them. A lot of the good ones didn't get thrust into the fire day 1. The more minutes from starting isn't necessarily going to aid his growth curve. He even said so himself.
     
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    The broad thought exercise isn't applicable because it's all in reference to lesser assets getting traded for lesser players than Brogdon.
     
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    Uh, no. Particularly with Brogdon.

    If we end up getting nothing for Brogdon because no one met our asking price… that’s an issue.

    Kinda like RLEC.

    Hasn’t happened yet…
     
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    I didn’t say that.
    Glad you’re not teaching anyone reading comprehension, champ.
     
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    The problem is that Charlotte is in the same position we are. Grant doesn't fit in their window. If it were a three-way with Dallas, however, that's another story.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I remember Dame saying the teammate who taught him the most was Earl Watson. Perhaps that's the role Brogdon is playing for Scoot. He's teaching him HOW to be a pro. Scoot comes with all kinds of natural ability, but he needs to learn the softer skills of being an NBA player. Furthermore, Malcolm has actually publicly lobbied to stay with us, which is baffling to me. Perhaps he's a different kind of vet (his educational accomplishments would support that fact), and he really prizes his role over being on a winning team.

    If that is the case, then I'm certain the Blazers value him quite differently than do other teams.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I think whether Brogdon stays or is traded for a low first or several seconds, we have won that trade handily.

    Look at what Dame brought to the team. Offense. Leadership. Range. Face of the franchise. On offense, his points are being more than taken by the guards that are taking his minutes. His leadership was so dominant, everyone deferred to him, especially at the end of a game. That make us predictable. We haven't replaced his range, but that was impossible. Ant can shoot almost as far, but isn't nearly the shooter Dame is. We did lose when it comes to who people think of when they think "Blazers", but that one was always going to be a loser.

    In return, we became much younger, with more cap space, much better on defense, and have much more of a team style of play. And that doesn't even count all the assets we now have that will serve as rocket fuel when we're really ready to compete. Yes, Williams is injured and his minutes will need to be managed for the rest of his career, but with he and Ayton, we have an elite center rotation. Brogdon is the perimeter defender we have needed at the point. The GS pick is going to be REALLY good. Then, in a few years, it's going to be raining lottery picks.

    Bottom line, it was a trade MIL needed to make. They needed to mortgage their future to win now. We needed to have a fire sale to compete tomorrow. I absolutely love the return we got for Dame and didn't think we would get so much.
     

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