Neil Olshey trade deadline thoughts

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What are the most pressing thoughts for Neil Olshey heading into free agency

  1. "West is wide open; got to make a big move to vault into contention."

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  2. "Several teams are imploding; now is the time to pounce on a fire sale."

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    25.5%

  3. "We're already in the luxury tax; probably shouldn't increase salary"

    9 vote(s)
    19.1%

  4. "I love all these guys; I can't part with any of them!"

    10 vote(s)
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  5. "Need to deal CJ before the sheen is off and his trade value dips."

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    17.0%

  6. "Last time I dealt youth for a rotation player, I got Afflaloed"

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  7. "Only 6 more months until Turner/Moe/Meyers are 'expiring' deals; THEN I'll be able to move them"

    16 vote(s)
    34.0%
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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    You know, The Infallible Word oF God! according to King James
     
    Hoopguru, Jan 9, 2019
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    See my post above regarding free agency this summer.

    I can certainly see the argument for not wanting to attach a pick for a salary dump. I've said many times I usually feel the same way. I just don't know if I can handle another whole season after this one of this team playing the same way.
     
    hoopsjock, Jan 9, 2019
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    If olshey trade it probably be minor one. The person my eyes on is possible Aminu to be traded due to his contract is up. But again if we are in the playoffs picture I don't see that even happening.
     
    James lamphear, Jan 9, 2019
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    If you trust Olsheys ability to draft then you’d have no problem with giving up a late first, because if Neil wanted to he could trade for someone in the second.

    And I don’t care who’s selected in the 20s, he’s not playing for at least a year under Stotts. Lillards free agency isn’t that far off, so I’d rather focus on putting the best possible team around him than developing some rookie who may (but most likely not) contribute within that timeframe.
     
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    So fiction? Nice.
     
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    I don't want us to pick someone in the 20s either. Picking Simons a year after wasting three picks to get projects in Collins/Swan was idiotic. But it's a much more valuable trade chip closer to the draft than in a salary dump in February. Hold it for a trade then.
     
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    Just like last summer right?
     
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    Just because Neil is an idiot who doesn't know how to build a team doesn't mean we throw around assets willy nilly
     
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    “Look, Brooke, teams were just more focused on keeping their cores together.”
     
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    It's one asset and it's not willy nilly.
     
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    But it’s not just throwing assets around. It’s using an asset to dump money so they can sign more reliable players. Now whether you think Olshey can actually sign that player is another story.
     
    Scalma, Jan 9, 2019
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    Well its not. This isnt really the place for that conversation though.
     
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    It has been proven to be fiction. But you're right this isn't the place for that conversation.
     
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    It does inform the value of the goal of that trade, though. If I trust Neil with the draft but don't trust him with free agency, it would make sense to not want him to reduce his opportunities where he excels in order to increase his opportunities where he is deficient.

    It'd be like telling Nurkic to get out of the post and just shoot more shish3s. Sure, swish3s can get you more points (just like free agency can get you players who can contribute immediately), but it's not his strong suit, and it's not likely to be successful. Better--both for Nurk and Olshey--to focus more on what they do best.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jan 9, 2019
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    We’re not talking about handing out a max contract here, nor are we sacrificing a lottery pick. Even if you believed Olshey was hopeless in free agency, one guy making $9m isn’t going to hamstring the organization. And like I said, im much more concerned about surrounding Lillard with a team that may actually do something in the playoffs than I am taking a swing on a rookie selected in the 20s. For every Kyle Kuzma there are three Biggie Swanigans.
     
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    So LeBron is taking up writing?
     
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    And as i mentioned earlier, it's one of the only ones we have.
     
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    Do you want to hold the door, or start throwing his clothes into the street?
     
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    Actually, it's a different chapter of the same story.
    I have ZERO faith in Neil's ability to do something good in free agency. I'm at least 50/50 on his draft ability, and 25/75 on his trade ability, but I'm 0/100 on his free agency decisions.
    Trade the pick is my first choice. Use the pick is my second choice. I do not have a third choice for salary-dumping our pick.
     
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    Said the guy trying to throw away a draft pick to shed $10M.
     
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