Yes, I did. He met with Reagan who gave him 100% support behind anything he wanted to do. That's what he's been saying in live interviews. I'm failing to see Reagan made some sort of mistake in sending him, nor in what Perkins did. Perkins also served in the Clinton administration. Also in the newspaper article, or in the NY Times article about it from 1986, he was the 2nd black man the administration nominated. The first had business dealings with companies in S. Africa so the democrats wouldn't confirm him.
Both. He freed blacks in South Africa. And then, effectively, delivered them into mass poverty and unemployment by allowing socialism to be the dominant force. Too bad.
I don't think that's right. It's more a case of the monied white people fleeing the country with their wealth when apartheid was ended. And by all accounts I've seen, the economy there was better when he left office than when apartheid was practiced. He's certainly one of the great leaders in modern history, maybe among the greats of all time.
That doesn't mean Reagan didn't appoint him for "the wrong reasons." I'm not arguing against any of that. All I said was that Mandela was an enemy of Reagan and the American right wing.
So are you saying that these "monied white people" took the best gold and diamond mines the world has with them? If a black run government that guaranteed minority rights, supported property rights and contract law, why in hell would "monied white people " leave? That the above did not happen is on Mandela. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Mandela was freed in 1990, a year after Reagan's 2nd term finished and in the 1st year of GHW Bush's term. Whatever they did helped free Mandela. Regardless if YOU think Perkins was appointed for "the wrong reasons," he was appointed. If Reagan wanted to, he could have appointed a white man. You can't wish away what he did.
South Africa is 25% of the entire economy of the continent. Arguing that their economy is somehow bad flies in the face of reason. The whites that fled hated black people because of their skin color. Property rights wouldn't make them want to stay. http://www.economist.com/node/12295535 The South African Institute of Race Relations, a think-tank, guesses that 800,000 or more whites have emigrated since 1995, out of the 4m-plus who were there when apartheid formally ended the year before. Robert Crawford, a research fellow at King's College in London, reckons that around 550,000 South Africans live in Britain alone.
forgot the link for the above chart: http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/12/daily-chart-6
Reagan labeled him a terrorist and, along with the American right wing, supported the South African government against international pressure for a decade. I don't see how that helped. Dude, I'm just talking about whats in the article you showed me. George Schutlz said to Perkins, "There are people around the president who believe that it is time to send a black ambassador, but not necessarily for the right reasons." That doesn't give me the greatest confidence that Reagan had some saintly foresight that sending Perkins was going to end apartheid AND free Mandela.
Reagan didn't label him a terrorist, JFK did. The apartheid government was there since 1948. More like 4 decades, and the presidencies of Truman, JFK, LBJ, and Carter more than established ongoing relations with the country. Reagan didn't send a white man. Get it? It seems to me you pick and choose which oppressive regimes it's OK to overthrow.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/06/world/africa/nelson-mandela-other-side/ The United States government placed Mandela on a terror watch list, where he stayed until 2008 -- long after his term as President of South Africa, and even longer after his receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. He was placed on it because of his group's militant fight against apartheid. At the time that Umkhonto we Sizwe carried out its first attacks, Mandela was at its helm. The next year, in 1962, he left for Morocco and Ethiopia, where he secretly studied guerrilla warfare.
"Enemy" is a little harsh. "Courageous leader who effectively ended apartheid in South Africa, only to be govern as a Marxist Commie Pinko while filling his pockets with public funds."
I can't find any reference to Mandela, ANC or the MK being labeled as terrorists by the U.S. until Reagan. Link? Yeah, but we're talking about Reagan. I don't. Explain the significance. lol Since the only other oppressive regime you and I have ever talked about is Saddam's Iraq, I'm forced to conclude that you think that since I disapprove of Bush's invasion of Iraq that I have no right supporting a native uprising to cast off the shackles of systematic racism in South Africa.
