Nelson named NBA Western Conference coach of the Month

Booo you guys suck! Don't talk about trading Baron/JRich >

They just got us in the playoffs man! give them a chance haha

 

[quote name='ryanfish;804185'][quote name='custodianrules2;803642']Baron is the man. He really improved this year under Coach Nelson. Baron really improved at the foul line and in %'s from the field this year and he managed to play a whole 9 games more than last year. 60 or so games from Baron is great considering that since we got him, he was the type of guy we wouldn't mind trading if he wasn't going to be leading us anywhere while riding the IR and taking Derek Fisher-esque type shots off the dribble.

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Baron has been great and I think he is the reason we are in the playoffs. That being said, his trade value will never be higher than it will be this offseason. If the Warriors really do want to be aggressive in getting a big guy, Baron's days in Oakland may be about done. I would love to keep him to teach Monta for another year, but if he has another 40 game season next year we may have wasted our biggest trading chip.</div>True, we could be in the playoffs one year and out the next like the Clippers last year and the Sonics the year before. We need something in our lineup that guarantees we'll be at least a 6th seed for the next few years. The success of the Warriors is really tied to Baron Davis playing at least as many games as he did this year compared to all the other years.

 

Here is my plan for the offseason. We are set for 2-4 years at all positions. But after that, the only sure thing is Ellis and Beans. So we need to draft a PG and a PF at a minimum. If we can find a good center that would be a plus, but my bet is in POB developing into a solid player like Verajo or whatever his name it at Cleveland. From here on out, all of our drafts have to count like the Spurs. Those guys got Parker, Ginobili etc late in the draft. That is what we need. More Montas etc...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Warriorfansnc93 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">From here on out, all of our drafts have to count like the Spurs. Those guys got Parker, Ginobili etc late in the draft. That is what we need. More Montas etc...</div>

Didn't the Spurs draft Leandro Barbosa? What happened with that.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Warriorfansnc93 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Here is my plan for the offseason. We are set for 2-4 years at all positions. But after that, the only sure thing is Ellis and Beans. So we need to draft a PG and a PF at a minimum. If we can find a good center that would be a plus, but my bet is in POB developing into a solid player like Verajo or whatever his name it at Cleveland. From here on out, all of our drafts have to count like the Spurs. Those guys got Parker, Ginobili etc late in the draft. That is what we need. More Montas etc...</div>

Let's focus on re-signing Biedrins and Monta Ellis before we are sure they will be around for 2-4 years from now. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Mullin did try to give them contract extentions this offseason however.

Before thinking about offseason and trades I'd like to see what this team does in the playoffs. The only reason I'd look to trade Baron and JRich if it's for Kevin Garnett. Baron for Bosh is something that probably wouldn't happen, but I'd definitley consider it. Jason for Gasol would be interesting, but again I'd like to see what he does in the playoffs before doing something like that.

From the draft I like Rudy Fernandez who is like 6-5 with good one-on-one skills, good shooter, smart basketball player to fill in at the 1-3 positions for Nellie. But I bet there will be a few other players with possibly better potential. But I'll focus on that stuff after the Warriors win the title, haha, or I mean are out of the playoffs.

Also I like POB, Kosta, and Powell and we'll definitley be stuck with Foyle, to be the front court help players. I am not sure if a PF is a huge need. If there is a Milsap/Powe type PF available in the second round, then maybe the Warriors should consider taking that guy, but otherwise, just take the BOP sounds good right now. PG wouldn't be so bad I suppose (again I am kind of interested in Rudy).

 

There's no way Bosh is going anywhere, however I really wonder about Charlie Villanueva, who is basically losing PT due to Bogut's emergence, and he had some injuries last year. This guy can definitely be a stud big man and I can't imagine he's that happy in Milwaukee right now. Compared to Andris, he's a better scorer but gets somewhat fewer rebounds, has a lower FG% but is a better FT shooter (and gets to the line more often than Andris). I wouldn't give up a ton for him, but if Milwaukee is looking to move him he'd interest me. He and Andris together is a big, fast, athletic front line that would be formidable in certain situations. Maybe not Nellie's starting lineup, but it's be a nice option to have.

 

Usually teams that win do very little to shake things up. When they start losing, they get a little more open-minded. So as far as trades, I doubt anything major will happen this offseason with the Warriors.

As for the draft, there's alot of big men but no one that'll be an instant impact player especially at our pick. The closest thing to a hustle-type big man that could fall under the radar is Herbert Hill, who's physical, great defensively but limited offensively. I'd rather draft whoever the best player available is, which I project will probably be a SG/SF type player at that spot. That'll replace the Pietrus/Barnes/Kabuki combo we've been using, and while we may keep some of those players, it's always nice to develop players within your own system looking towards the future.

We do have two second round picks too, both should be pretty early. In this deep draft we can hope for some nice picks out of there.

 

<div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Didn't the Spurs draft Leandro Barbosa? What happened with that.</div>

They did trade him for a future first round pick. I'm not sure of the politics or reasoning behind this move. Barbosa, that year, was projected anywhere from 13 to 29 and ended up as pick number 28, which should have been a steal for the Spurs.

 

<div class="quote_poster">lakers_kb24 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='Rudeezy;804045']Well just in case you are a 12 year old kid who has little knowledge of the nbaQUOTE]


You know, Rudeezy, I AM a 12 year old kid, and I just watched basketball during the year 2000, so you can't blame me. But, I still don't think that isn't enough to justify him for winning COY.</div>

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You can't just go by record because then the COY will go to the most winningest team every year. There are several factors involved and wins are one the main ones. How many games did the team improve is another or how well did the team improve throughout the season are other factors.

 

<div class="quote_poster">ryanfish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Baron has been great and I think he is the reason we are in the playoffs. That being said, his trade value will never be higher than it will be this offseason. If the Warriors really do want to be aggressive in getting a big guy, Baron's days in Oakland may be about done. I would love to keep him to teach Monta for another year, but if he has another 40 game season next year we may have wasted our biggest trading chip.</div>

No doubt Baron's trade value has shot up, but you don't trade your best player who was instrumental in pulling together (jelling) your team. There is a danger to that line of thinking. You don't want to make too make changes thinking it will get you on the fast track. I rather try to build upon what the team accomplished and the chemistry that they have. Finally, the Warriors have the pieces to build a contender with and so continuity is important now.

I remember Don Nelson did exactly what you are saying when he traded Mitch Richmond. We went from a pretty good team with good chemistry in Run TMC to a better record, but then started to have difficulties. It just so happened a couple years later after that, we were able to get an impact big man in Chris Webber. But by then the team wasn't the same anymore. It became something else totally different albeit it reached the playoffs again with guys like Webber, Sprewell and Owens. It's better to build on the foundation we have now and trust someone like Chris Mullin with Nelson's and Higgins' input can get it done.

<div class="quote_poster">Warriorfansnc93 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Here is my plan for the offseason. We are set for 2-4 years at all positions. But after that, the only sure thing is Ellis and Beans. So we need to draft a PG and a PF at a minimum. If we can find a good center that would be a plus, but my bet is in POB developing into a solid player like Verajo or whatever his name it at Cleveland. From here on out, all of our drafts have to count like the Spurs. Those guys got Parker, Ginobili etc late in the draft. That is what we need. More Montas etc...</div>

Hmmm... I'm set on Baron, JRich, SJax, and AL with Monta and Beans for the future, but do agree that we need help at the PG and PF positions. Not worried so much about center because of Beans, OD, Notorious POB, and Perovic (big guy playing in Europe (?) now).

I'm for drafting a backup PG like Acie Law if he's still there at #18 and getting a PF or point forward type in trade. We still need interior defense, rebounding, improved FT shooting, as well as someone to step in and take over for Baron in case he goes down.