"Net Neutrality" is Obamacare for the Internet

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  1. MARIS61

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    That's a lie. From beginning to end.
     
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    Yes they most certainly did.
     
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    Bullshit. Utter bullshit. You clearly have no clue about this subject.
     
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    You're the one spreading manure.

    Nowhere in America
    have prices gone down and broadband speeds gone up. Not in a single household.

    What has happened is speed-per-buck has gone down, giving the user far less for his money. If he wants fast, or even normal speed, it now costs more than it did. And the unlimited data previously available for a mere pittance is now completely unaffordable to the average user.

    Andalusian clearly has a better grip than you do on the realities of this latest financial rape of Real Americans.
     
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    That's just plain idiotic.

    15 years ago, you paid $30/month for 56.6K baud dial up modem access.

    Today, $30/month buys you broadband fast enough to deliver high quality video to more than one TV at the same time. Video is by far the biggest type of thing as far as bandwidth usage.

    In fact, you can pay 1/2 the price for many thousands of times the speed of dialup modem.

    [​IMG]

    That ad is for "unlimited" data. But I'm talking to a realtor about a subject he knows near nothing about.
     
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    Where does one obtain this $30/month internet service?
     
  7. Denny Crane

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    Time Warner Cable

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    Speeds up to 64MBit. 1,000+ x faster than 56.6K baud modem.
     
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    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/oct/21/cox-communications-google-bandwidth-Internet-speed/

    Cox Communications said Tuesday that it would boost Internet speeds for the bulk of its customers in San Diego County this week with no immediate increase in subscription fees.

    Cox, which is the region’s largest cable company with about 500,000 subscribers, upgraded its network to increase speeds in three of its four Internet packages.

    The company’s “Internet Preferred” plan will increase from 25 megabits per second to 50 megabits per second. Its “Internet Premier” plan will go from 50 megabits to 100 megabits, while “Internet Ultimate” will jump from 100 megabits to 150 megabits.

    At those speeds, subscribers could download a full length movie in 1 minute to 4 minutes, depending on the plan. All of the plans come with cloud storage.

    The company’s bottom tier “Internet Essentials” plan is staying at 5 megabits per second download speeds.

    About 75 percent of Cox Communications’ subscribers have “Internet Preferred” or higher broadband plans, said Suzanne Schlundt, vice president of marketing for Cox in California.

    “Internet usage is doubling every two years, and we want to be ahead of what consumers need,” she said. “This is actually the 10th time we have increased our Internet speeds in 11 years. So we are doubling on the most popular packages, and Ultimate is getting a substantial increase as well.”

    Schlundt said Internet subscription prices won’t increase at this time. But for existing customers to tap into faster Internet, they’ll need a Docsis 3.0 modem, which can be purchased at Cox Solutions stores or at electronics retailers for around $70. Cox also rents the modems to customers.

    While Cox is juicing its Internet speeds locally, it is doing more elsewhere. Cox has rolled out gigabit Internet speeds in parts of Phoenix recently, and it has announced plans to offer gigabit Internet in Las Vegas and Omaha.
     
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    BTW, $30 15 years ago is $42 today in inflation adjusted dollars.

    So in theory if you got 56.6K baud today for $42/month, you'd be getting the same service as then at the same price now.
     
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    For fees up to $74.99 month.
     
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    LOL

    15 years ago, you'd pay $2000 to get 1.5 mbits.

    You're complaining about $75 for 50x faster than that? That's way less and way faster.
     
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    So much for freedom of speech or freedom of anything.

    If I ran an ISP, I wouldn't invest another $.10 into infrastructure.
     
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    I must ask how you figure thats a knock against freedom of speech.
     
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    I haven't been Obama's biggest fan as of late, but I gotta say he got it right with this. Fuck Comcast and their ilk.
     
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    Comcast isn't the bad guy in this. Netflix and Google are. They're getting really cheap bandwidth to the end user at Comcast's (and their ilk's) expense.

    Comcast will treat all packets the same, which will actually be a much worse user experience. They'll also simply either charge the customer to pay for the infrastructure upgrades and ongoing costs or they'll just not invest in those things.

    We lose.
     
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    That is complete bullshit.

    I also found it scary that this was put up to a vote of 5 people. One of which was a former shill for Verizon.
     
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    No, it's not bullshit. Faster internet connections require massive investments in equipment and cabling. The stuff doesn't just magically appear on the phone polls and in the manholes all over cities throughout the country. The cable TV and DSL providers aren't going to just do this for free so Netflix can stream all the bandwidth they want to people for $7/month.

    Do you pay for an internet connection? Why shouldn't Netflix or Google?
     

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