Rumor Nets still interested in Crabbe

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  1. Scalma

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    Yeah, totally factual.
     
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    To me, interest from NY and Brooklyn confirms that Olshey was right in re-signing Crabbe (and yes, agreed he is way overpaid.) Let's say we take the 22nd pick for him - at least we get something instead of nothing as we would have had he simply signed with the Nets last year.

    But again, Crabbe is a guy who has a very desired NBA skill and will be in the league for at least 10 years, given his contract. You can't say that for most late 1st round picks. He's worth way more than the 22nd pick, and Neil thinks so too obviously, and he does this for a living.
     
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    I think we need to look at it from the other side. If we had salary flexibility, and needed a young, very good shooter with at least average defensive ability, wouldn't we be all over trading a pick in the 20s for a proven shooter, even with a large contract?
     
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    If we were contenders and needed one last shooter piece, I'd consider it. At his salary though for as limited as he has shown so far, and his reluctance to shoot even though he shoots a high percentage, I'd think there would be better options. At that rate, he needs to be a starter and a bigger contributor.
     
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    Paul Allen is just as much of fault than Olshey. He told Olshey to resign these guys at all cost so that what Olshey did. Paul fell in love with these guys that play two years go with theret heart and soul and a team that left it on the floor every night. But he found out last year that some of the players that got over paid stop doing the things they did the previous season. So now those players there going to try to get rid of this off season.
     
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    There hasn't been any reported interest in Crabbe. The article you linked was a writer asking IF the Nets would be interested, or if they consider their offer last year a bullet dodged.

    You're confusing this non-report with other reports that the Knicks and Nets are interested in the Blazers' draft picks. Unless I've missed something that you can point to, of course.
     
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    Yeah...we don't actually know that to be the case. These random rumors don't qualify as confirmation of anything regarding Olshey's valuation of Crabbe.
     
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    He doesn't have "at least average defensive ability" though. His size and athleticism seem to make people think he's solid on defense, but neither the eye test nor the stats suggest he's anything more than awful on defense.
     
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    Yet he won Portland multiple games with his defense. Pretty cool for an awful defender.
     
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    Not really, but I suspect we'll have to agree to disagree.
     
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    Selective memory?

    Off the top of my head, the rockets game against harden in a must win game.
     
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    Or you're emotionally invested in Crabbe being a really good player and interpret everything he does through that filter.
     
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    I'm not sure he 'signed off' on all the summer's signings. He may have given NO some direction and let him do his thing.

    I could totally see Allen tell NO, get the team as competitive as you can, but don't go into the Lux Tax. NO did that, for the 16-17 season.

    Allen didn't see (or understand) the ramifications until they signed CJ to the extension. With as many things as Allen is involved with, I have a hard time believing that he would be micro-managing the contract negotiations for the Blazers (and Seahawks, etc).
     
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    I don't disagree with that, but given his physical length and young age, I can see another team thinking he could be a great 3D guy. If he was one now I wouldn't want him gone.
     
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    Emotionally invested? Why would I be emotionally invested in a stranger? I just see his value, while the accountants here are blinded by his contract. Our team is better with him on it, so unless someone comes up with an actual upgrade (on the court, not on the balance sheet) I will continue to campaign for him to stay.
     
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    I agree, if he were one now, I also wouldn't him traded unless real value were coming back.

    I don't dislike Crabbe (though some probably think otherwise) and have no reason to denigrate him beyond sincerely believing what I say. I've been excited by his potential in past years and still think he's a worthwhile reserve--if paid like a reserve. I don't believe he has the capability to be a good starter and he's paid like he's a very good starter. To me, not only doesn't have the "D" aspects of 3&D, even the "3" part is compromised by the fact (in my view) that he's not consistently capable of shooting them over a contest nor is he consistently capable of exploiting a hard close-out with a dribble drive. He's an un-aggressive spot-up shooter who shoots a great percentage on the easiest possible shots and he doesn't provide much value in any other facet of the game.

    This is not what I expected out of him a few years ago, nor what I hoped for.
     
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    I think we're safe. Unless you're referring to his acne.
     
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    My darkhorse trade prediction: Crabbe, Meyers, #20 to ORL for Terrence Ross, #33 and #35
     
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