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  1. The Professional Fan

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    A number of people (aka Trump, Conway, Spicer etc...)

    Ok.
     
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    Clapper, Rogers.
     
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    Clapper didn't say that. He said he was not in a position to know either way.
     
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    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/j...collusion-with-trump-campaign/article/2622452

    James Clapper: Still no evidence of any Russian collusion with Trump campaign

    On NBC weeks earlier, Clapper said, "We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say, 'our,' that's NSA, FBI and CIA, with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that included in our report."

    When former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates was asked the same question, she declined to answer indicating that to do so might reveal classified information.

    But Yates clarified further by saying, "Just because I say I can't answer it, you should now draw from than an assumption that the answer is 'yes.'"

    When Graham asked Clapper why the original report on Russian meddling in the 2016 election did not include the so-called "Russian dossier" which cropped up weeks later in the Trump administration, Clapper said, "We couldn't corroborate the sourcing."

    http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael...idence-russia-trump-collusion-built-huge-myth

    Sen. Paul: ‘Not One Iota of Evidence’ of Russia-Trump ‘Collusion’ – Built on a ‘Huge Myth’

    http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/...idence-of-collusion-between-trump-and-russia/


    In an interview with the Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart, Rep. Maxine Waters was forced to admit that in all of the classified briefings she’s attended on President Trump and Russia, she’s seen no evidence of collusion

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-there-was-collusion-between-trump-and-russia

    Clapper: 'I don't know if there was collusion' between Trump and Russia

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/0...n-collusion-with-trump-campaign-at-this-time/

    Sen. Feinstein: No Evidence of Russian Collusion With Trump Campaign at This Time

    http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...llusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597

    Full Clapper: 'No Evidence' of Collusion Between Trump and Russia

    http://circa.com/politics/fbi-probe...during-election-yielded-no-evidence-of-crimes

    Intelligence sources say that the FBI investigated a computer tied to Donald Trump's business but there's no evidence to date that would warrant criminal charges against any of the president’s associates.









     
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    Flynn is clearly in trouble. He wasn't entirely truthful on disclosure forms he submitted as part of his vetting process. The FBI would be investigating him to show he lied.

    That he wanted immunity indicates he knows he's in trouble for this reason.

    There's no other crime made known to date that anyone involved would be legitimately accused of.
     
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    Today:

    Washington (CNN)Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told MSNBC'S Andrea Mitchell on Friday that there could be evidence of collusion between Russia and President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign -- a statement that comes on the heels of an apparent public threat Trump made this morning to fired FBI Director James Comey, tweeting that Comey had better hope their conversations have not been taped.

    "There was no evidence that rose to that level, at that time, that found its way in to the intelligence community assessment, which we had pretty high confidence in," the former director of national intelligence said of collusion between Trump campaign aides and Russians, referring also to the US intelligence assessment that Russia tried to influence the presidential election in favor of Trump. "That's not to say there wasn't evidence, but not that met that threshold."
    When asked whether the FBI's Russia investigation is fake news, or a "witch hunt," as Trump called it this morning in another tweet, Clapper told MSNBC on Friday: "I don't believe it is."

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/james-clapper-james-comey-donald-trump-russia/
     
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-flynn-idUSKBN186309

    Senate committee subpoenas former Trump adviser Flynn over Russia

    Flynn has been a focus of investigations into Russia and the election. He was forced to resign in February as Trump's national security adviser for failing to disclose the content of his talks with Sergey Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the United States, and then misleading Vice President Mike Pence about the conversations.

    ^^^ That would qualify as an "FBI Russia investigation"

     
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    Here's the question.

    Does intelligence exist that can definitely answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials? You said we did not include any evidence in our report.

    And I say our, that's the NSA, the FBI, the CIA, with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that included in our report.

    Chuck Todd (ph) then asked, I understand that, but does it exist? You say no, not to my knowledge. Is that still accurate?

    CLAPPER: It is.
     
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    Absence of evidence != evidence of absence. So far, all anyone has said is "I don't know"
     
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    Also, there's the old saying "Where there's smoke there's fire."

    Reasonable people are climbing the ladder towards the fire. But they haven't even made it to the open window, so you guys are denying the smoke billowing out. Meanwhile, Trump kicks the ladder out from underneath the firefighters, and you cheer while the house burns down.

    Did I take the metaphor too far? Probably.
     
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    Difficult to say hoo. Sort of depends on where you need to go, you know.
     
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    Why doesn't Comey have a job now? It sure ain't because of Hilary.
     
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    Someone lit a match, therefore there's smoke!

    That's the better metaphor.
     
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    Don't you guys think that If Obama did a 10th of what Trump has done the last 100 days right wing news would never stop talking about the abuse of power. If we tweeted anything that Trump has tweeted, if he spent as much time as Trump has at his golf resort, if his wife decided that millions of dollars in tax payer money needed to be spent so she didn't have to live with her husband. If Obama had done a 10th of what Trump has done don't you think that the republicans would stop at nothing to make sure he got impeached? The Republicans were willing to make up some BS about a "Biden rule" that does not exist and the took what Biden said to an extreme that pretty much sets a precedence that a president doesn't get to pick a SCOTUS nominee in the last 4th of his tenure. suggested to make sure Obama could not even get a hearing for a SCOTUS nominee. The republicans voted to repel ACA, what was it 50+ times? Republicans investigated Benzhai for over 2 years on 7 different occasions, then look at everything about Hillarys e-mails. If Obama was even suggested to have been linked to Russia to win an election do you think the Republicans would have made sure to halt everything to investigate it,
    Some of that was because the Republicans control Congress and could do those things. Thats what needs to change, we have both parties fighting to be the victor in a struggle that should instead be how to better america and the american people instead of being the winner at the cost of the people which is what our politics has turned into. Your voted into congress to make sure the WH has our best interests in heart instead we get both sides arguing how to help corporations our more then people and both sides refusing to work together because they both have to be right and neither side wants to compromise.
     
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    My solution was delete facebook. Shit worked great. Year and a half now i still manage. I dont even binge facebook till i puke.
     
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    Liberal logic. "If something happened this is how i think you would react so im going to act like this to teach you that theoretical lesson!"
     
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    People bitch about the Russian affecting our elections and who is President. It seems it will never end, but small stuff in comparison to our premier meddler.
    I can't remember anyone during my life time, that has a more profound effect on the who is President and the Presidency than Comey.

    The man, according to his own words, was investigating both candidates for President in the last election.

    In the case of Clinton, he had ample evidence of multiple crime having been committed by her. However, he chose, outside his call, like a benevolent, American Saint, that she would not be prosecuted, and then he chose to excoriate her in public for all the crimes she committed. Then at a later date brought it to public attention one more time, destroying any chance to be elected,
    at least in her mind. No FBI director has ever taken on a role remotely close to what this man performed.

    In the case of Trump, without any evidence being sited by anyone or any agency, chose to investigate Trump for collusion with the Russians. Apparently based on partisan innuendo and speculation in place of evidence. Then he tells congress and the American people the investigation will continue without speculation as to when it will end, offering no justification for the investigation, without explanation. No FBI director has ever assumed the role of hanging a black cloud over a new administration like Comey has done.

    The role Comey assumed is not described in the Constitution nor is it described in any authorization of Congress. It is more than difficult to see how any man could assume this role on his own initiative as Comey expanded the job description of FBI Director. But it is an example of what men can do with unfettered power, perhaps Congress should clarify the job description for future Directors.

    President Trump fired him for all of the above and I thank him. Well done!
     
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    Perhaps Manafort / Stone / Flynn / Sessions shouldn't have been playing with matches.
     

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