Religion Never let an incident go to waste!

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  1. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    Facts huh?
    Your facts are like CNN/FNN.
    Half truths.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    What is the issue with your account that I supposedly didn't fix?
     
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    Anybody ever read the Anarchist Cookbook?

    That was being passed around my group of friends in 6th grade.

    It shows you many ways to kill/dismember people with everyday items.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    A fact is "knife attack in China kills 20"

    Imagination is "guy with knife will be subdued before he can kill 20."
     
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    This rhetoric really pisses mo off. The left screams that "Some thing must be done!", but when a sensible solution comes into play, they refuse to do anything . All they want is to scream to the havens that the only solution is their agenda that removes guns, period.
     
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    I believe we are 5 years away from automated taser drone bots from being tested and 10 years from them being implemented in schools and public places. The drone just flies into a fucker and discharges, maybe include a dye pack like they use for bank robbers. Facial recognition and RFID tech would prevent 1st responders from being attacked.
     
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    It shows that "Feeling" do not have priorities. Just a scale of intensity.
    The score for hated of Guns is overwhelming the score for the sorrow of killing children. Being Illogical does not enter the process.
     
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    yeah...I know. I want to see a solution to the problem. When politics is more important than children's lives, it is time to change the politicians.
     
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    We deliver 80,000 volts of awesomeness! Haha :biglaugh:
     
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    Taser Explores Concept of Drone Armed With Stun Gun for Police Use
    Project shows leap in thinking about technology, even as critics decry militarization of law enforcement
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    Zusha Elinson
    Updated Oct. 20, 2016 5:05 p.m. ET

    SAN DIEGO—The day when police zap suspects from the sky with drones carrying stun guns may be nearing.

    Taser International Inc., known for its stun guns and body cameras, is exploring the concept of a drone armed with a stun gun for use by police. This week, the company held discussions with police officials about such a device.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/taser-...armed-with-stun-gun-for-police-use-1476994514
     
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    Facts are the schools report 5,000 guns made it into schools and 75,000 knives. You have those 5,000 guns rarely even used, same with the knives.

    I don't think they belong in schools at all. There's only one way to prevent it and that's metal detectors. Some guy with intent to shoot up a school shouldn't even make it past the guards at the front door. Guys who want to bring in guns or knives should be stopped at the front door, too.

    In NYC, they put metal detectors in 200 schools and school violence declined by about half. Now they're talking about removing them because a liberal mayor is in charge and has a different view of things. I'm not sure that different view makes any sense at all.

    The only thing about metal detectors is you have to use them in all the schools, and not in a way to discriminate against students.

    The mass shootings aren't necessarily happening in what are considered dangerous neighborhoods, but in white suburban sleepy little towns. So the metal detectors need to be used in those suburban sleepy little towns just as vigilantly as everywhere else.

    The other consideration is why kids think they need to have these weapons at school. It sure looks like a tiny fraction, if any at all, are used for mass shootings. Stabbings and shootings are quite rare, in fact.

    I define rare as 400 people shot in over 200 school shootings over a 6 year period (if the source is to be trusted, I assume it's vastly overstated, but use it anyway). That's 30,000 guns in school that we know of (5000 x 6 years). 200/30000 = 0.7%. Not zero. The use of knives is even more rare, considering the massive number more of them found at schools.

    1. Students feel they need them for defense. I IMAGINE this is likely. Bullies and gangs do threaten kids, of that I'm sure.
    2. Students feel they need them to intimidate other students.
    3. Students feel they need them to intimidate teachers.
    4. They just want to carry their gun wherever they go.
    5. Angry with boyfriend/girlfriend (domestic violence of sorts).
    6. intent to mass kill (much more rare than typical school shootings).

    The more typical kind of school gun violence is one or two targeted people shot, not someone going to school with an assault rifle with indiscriminate intent to kill as many as possible. One or two targeted people suggests something personal between the shooter and victim(s).

    May be other reasons. You'd think addressing these might be a good idea.
     
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    Ahhh, this argument is just a result of there not being any easy fix for this. Right now we're just lucky there's not very many psychos running around.

    If I were in school now I'd bring something like my green hammer with me...and probably get expelled. image000000_13.jpg
     
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    I guess I have to disagree here a bit. I don't like metal detectors and I do not think they need to be used in all school. I rather like the idea of local control
    making the decisions for the local school. Not every where require the measures used else where nor should that be viewed as discrimination. It simply is a fact that one size is not the only size that works best in all places. Not all rules should be made in Washington DC. That is a big part of the problem now.

    If public school must all be the same then public schools need to be eliminated to make room for private schools and the freedom for people to select their school.
     
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    You would not at all expect Sandy Hook to be a gunman's target. That's why you have to use the metal detectors even in Sandy Hook.

    The TSA uses one size fits all at all the airports. How many stories about guns or bombs being snuck onto airplanes do we hear?
     
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    Good choice! Perhaps the one on the right would work well too. But the one on the left looks as if it would get stuck to easy for rapid repeated use.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    The green one is perfect. Relatively light, absorbs impact so you barely feel it. Balanced, sits on my shoulder and stays there.

    The pick hammer on the left almost got used in a domestic dispute 15 years ago. Old truck was overheating, pulled off at the end of a long empty road.

    I see a young guy on foot chasing a girl in a car. They're screaming at each other. I got out of the truck and hung the hammer in a hook on my coveralls.

    They get closer and I ask her if she needs help and she screams "mind your own fucking business"

    Ok bitch, knock yourselves out. I proceed to put water in my truck. She may have died later that day...tough shit.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Oh yeah, that green hammer was almost 100 dollars. I never spend that kind of cash on tools but a buddy had one and I love it.
     
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    I don't have any objection to metal detectors, but they aren't going to stop a mass shooter. They will stop the kid who brings a gun to school for no good reason and then gets pissed at someone and shoots them, or accidentally shoots someone. But a mass shooter is just going to start by shooting whoever is watching the metal detector. Don't see how that helps.

    barfo
     
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