New Backup Point Guard

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  1. Schilly

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    Barton was our 5th best assist guy in terms of per minute or also Ast%. He also was 4th best in terms of not turning the ball over.
     
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    If we want a pg Bradley isn't the guy... 1.6 assists and 1.9 turnovers per 36.
     
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    Bradley would be PERFECT. Knowing olshey, he might just give it a try.
     
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    Well, our team could go for players that can stretch the floor with questionable defensive ability.

    Example:

    Sign Steve Blake to the BAE - combo guard with the ability to shoot the 3
    Sign Hawes to the MLE - center with the ability to shoot the 3
     
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    Yuck
     
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    LOL. Our free agency may end up being something like that.
     
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    Avery Bradley....

    From 82games. Produces 13.4 points allows 15.8
    Per Basketball-Reference has a DRTG of 109 and an Offensive rating of 100 and a usage percentage of 23.5

    Compared to Mo, Bradley is a slightly better defender, scoring wise they are similar, but Mo shares the ball a whole lot more and 6.3 assists per 36 compared to 1.6. Mo also has a lowers ussage Percentage at 20%

    So what would happen is we would sign Bradley then everyone in here would be complaining all season about he dribbles and shoots too much and doesn't pass and is just an average defender.
     
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    Maybe if we got someone with an ORtg higher than their DRtg...?
     
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    Exactly. People get all hyped up on Defense, but honestly at the end of the day the team that scores more wins. So a teams +/- is more vital than it's defense or offense singularly. This season the best team in that regard was San Antonio with a +7.7. Portland ranked 8 with a +4.0. The Warriors are the only team that had a better +/- than the Blazers but had a worse record.

    So adding defense is great as long as you aren't also sacrificing scoring. Our Starters were the most productive starting 5 in the league, our bench was the least productive. What our bench needs is more firepower more than anything.
     
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    He shot 39% from 3, though!
     
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    You score more by stopping the other team from scoring. :beatinto:
     
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    Its a combination of the 2
     
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    Avery Bradley looked awesome in the playoffs this year. I give him that. Will he become the next Ramon Sessions, who was lusted after on this board for years?
     
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    or we trade CJ (and change if needed) for Bradley and look to sign a guy like Jordan Hill with the MLE (or most of it) and then we still have the BAE
     
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    Worrying about the backup PG before recruiting serious players using our MLE is foolish if you ask me. Get the BPA through FA and bolster the bench....and then.....try to sign a PG who will only play a max of 16 minutes per game. I think the combo of McCollum and Barton will grow and probably be ok for this role. I would like to have a true PG for another option though.

    I'd rather focus attention on BPA first. We may be able to re-sign Mo anyway. He may not get the offers he's looking for.
     
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    problem is you won't get Hawes for the MLE, he'll get more
     
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    I'd rather keep Thomas Robinson and have him play 15-20 mpg than blowing the entire MLE Jordan Hill, who IMO isn't as athletic or energetic as Robinson. If you're going to bring in Hill, then Robinson needs to be traded, and I'm not sure what he's worth at this point. Otherwise, you're paying a lot of money for two back-up PFs.
     
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    Second problem is why would Hawes take the MLE and also agree to play 18 mpg off the bench?
     
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    I would trade Trob, as Hill is a backup PF/C so he fills two positions, Trob can't play C, I would also consider trading Trob and CJ to Philly for That Young, then use the BAE on a backup PG. Thad and Hill give us a potent bench and front line with a lot of flexibility.
     
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    What are you going to get for Robinson? His draft position makes his rookie deal difficult to trade, and signing Jordan Hill to the full MLE means your back-up PG is already on the roster, or you have to trade for him.

    What's the fascination with Jordan Hill, anyhow? The guy hasn't done jackcrap in the playoffs, and back-up PF is a moot point with LMA playing 38 mpg. I suppose if LMA gets injured, but Hill is a hustle/garbage player, just like Robinson.
     

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