OT New NFL Kneeling Rule

Who is your team? Would you want him as your starter? Did you watch him closely or casually his last couple of years. Critics were all over him his last year with Harbaugh, then the following 2 years he won 4 games as a starter. Sure the whole team sucked, but he was part of the problem. Not to mention the whole "Love triangle" issue that splintered the locker room. Then he requested a trade when they hired Chip, but no one wanted to pay him what he was asking for in terms of an extension. This BTW was all before the Anthem stuff. He was not as good as he thought he was. Was he as good as some other "average to poor" QB's? Sure but teams have no problem finding average QB's without baggage. His stats were fine but he was already headed to back up status before this whole kneeling thing started.

 

As someone who was born and raised a Catholic, Paul Ryan offends me to the bone. His (and Kellyanne Conway’s) brand of “I’ve got mine, now fuck you” Catholicism is a large factor in why this country is messed up. They must have been diddling in the cloak room when Christian values were being taught......People like that make me ashamed to call myself Catholic. They certainly don’t represent my beliefs and values.

 

Dude, my team is the Eagles. We're set at QB.

And you're wrong. Kaep can play.

 

I'm facebooking the shit outta that!!

 

This here illustrates part of the problem. You read his quote as:
“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

When you should read his quote as:
“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

Your focus is in the wrong place - an object - rather than being on the meaning of what that object represents to millions of people.

 

No, I’m pointing out that he referenced the flag as a symbol of that oppression... no one is denying that problems still exist in this country, but we have come a long way and there are more good things about life here than bad when comparing to other countries... Kaepernick did make it about the flag in that statement so don’t tell people it’s not about the flag

 

I disagree with you about Kaep. He sucks ass. The Seahawks ruined him.

 

Agree to disagree. And that is NOT why he's out of the NFL.

It's because the NFL is a "good" ol' boys club...

 

That flag is on every police officers uniform...

 

Come on bro, not all officers are bad... in fact probably 90+% are good people... why are you stereotyping an entire group because of some bad apples... we need reform and a better way to screen people allowed to become officers and also accountability and jail time for officer who abuse there power... but most are good and keep people safe... do you like being stereotyped? I don’t think it’s fair some of the statements you make.

 

I'm tired of this bullshit.

Are 90% of people good?

Do you know 90% of officers?

Kindly get this bullshit outta here.

 

Maybe 90% is not accurate but I guarantee many more good than bad

 

The average police academy is 21 weeks long.

Oregon? 16....

A high school diploma and 16 weeks doesn't create a good police officer.

 

I’m not arguing there are problems with the system... I’m on your side! I just don’t think it’s fair to stereo type an entire group... I think most people go into criminal justice because they want to help people

 

It's funny to me how the same people who don't trust government at all trust government's enforcers.

And they give DEVOUT trust when they're killing us... GTFO.

Then there's the other narrative:

"cops are regular people just like us"...

Well y'all can't have it both ways. They can't be 90% good and be regular people like us. Because 90% of us are NOT good. Hell, I'd say upwards of 35% or more are downright racist.

"Regular people are affected by stress.
We make mistakes and on bad days we ain't at our best.
Regular people see things that we shouldn't see
And when we see this evil we develop PTSD
Since regular people with FLAWS
Are the ones enforcing the laws
Then they have the SAME flaws as the people policed."

-Me (Hands Up, Don't Shoot)

 

Just like you might fear Syrian refugees coming here because one may be a terrorist, I fear police because one might be a murderer.

Now since you talked about stereotypes, the cop can take his uniform off. I can't change my skin tone.

 

Police see the WORST of us EVERY DAY.

We talk about soldiers coming home with PTSD.

I'd wager to say MOST of our police force has PTSD from seeing us at our worst daily.

They're regular people aren't they?

 

It's about what the flag REPRESENTS. I'm not sure how I can state it any more clearly. That flag represents this country. This country has done, and continues to do, horrendous things to, at this point, probably billions of people through our short history. A protest of the flag/anthem is the most direct way to protest the actions that have lead to large swathes of our citizenry to lead lives comparable to the lives of people who live in actual 3rd-world countries, or to be under threat similar to those who live under a dictatorship.
You can say "there are more good things about life here than bad when comparing to other countries" but that doesn't make it true. When it comes to the lower-classes - regardless of race - there are certainly much better places to live than the US. Pick any Western European country. Sure, they also have their issues with racism, but they don't just go around executing black people...and if you did get shot, you wouldn't have to pay out of pocket to have the bullet removed.