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  1. Mediocre Man

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    No, and she was jailed because if it, and her office forced to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. What's your point?
     
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    I'll counter that with a better argument:

    Why are private entities allowed to skirt the constitution?
     
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    There are a few terms of endearment we can't call you. If it offends someone, stop using it
     
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    My point is (not sure why you don't get it) most people complaining about Kaepernick supported Kim Davis.

    Jesus you're obtuse at times...
     
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    Is it hard typing while looking in a mirror?
     
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    PRIVATE
     
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    Not tryin to paint you as anything... those are your words not mine... I’m just trying to defend the opposing viewpoint and you seem to think only your viewpoint is correct. As I have said many times, I am pro police reform and punishment for their actions... I just think there are so many other ways to do it then offend half the country... and Kaepernick’s own words said the flag stands for oppression... how about the flag stands for all the good things in America and we still have a ways to go... I just really don’t like how you stereotype anyone who disagrees with you
     
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    Dude GTFO....
     
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    Am I wrong?
     
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    So? So the fuck what?

    Please give me logic. There's nothing logical about private entities not having to follow the constitution. That just pushes us toward fascism.
     
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    Jesus..... I know why!!!

    What I'm saying is, why do we allow it......?
     
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    How do you mean? For example, are you asking why private entities are (or should be) permitted to limit their employees' speech? Or is it something else I'm missing?
     
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    Don't just talk about it, be about it. Your actions (ranting about Kaepernick instead of caring about how we're treated in this country) show the Opposite.
     
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    I just want to acknowledge the 'quiet as a rat pissin' on cotton' phrase, which I'd never heard before and I like a lot.

    barfo
     
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    Give some options on how to contribute besides kneeling for flag... if there is a petition to sign to put laws on the ballot for better screening/longer training of officers I will sign it... if there is a charity I can donate to, I will... but I don’t see those options because all that is ever talked about is kneeling for anthem... how can you not see this has been a counterproductive distraction
     
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    Yes. That.

    They don't have to follow the constitution.

    Drug screens are a violation of our 4th amendment right.
     
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    Why don't you stop whiteslpaining to us how to speak freely?

    That's a better plan.
     
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    When I first started posting here and @dviss1 said a couple things like that at me I took it kind of personally like, I wasn’t sure what I did to piss him off. However after being here for a little while I just kind of realized he posts like that, it seems aggressive but I don’t think it’s ever really meant to be taken like he’s actually mad or whatever. Though he does seem passionate about this subject (which is fine by me). I just don’t think you should take it likes he’s raging at his computer or whatever he posts on. Kind of took me off guard when I started, but I’ve learned that even when I may disagree with him on something he seems like a good dude to me. Kind of hope when I get back on the court I can have him as a ref, a team mate or an opponent.
     
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    I would say that the constitution is all about the government, and was never intended to be anything but about the government. How the government is organized, what its functions are, how each area interacts, who can participate in it, and--in the case of the bill of rights--what it is not permitted to do. All the rights enumerated in the constitution are specifically to protect people from governmental overreach.

    In my mind, the reasons for the bill of rights to apply to the government and not employers owe to the many differences between the two:
    • An individual can choose from many different employers, but it's much more difficult to choose your country
    • An individual is an employee only during work hours, but is under the rule of the government 24/7
    • An individual is an employee only during their working years, but is under the rule of the government their entire life
    • An individual is an employee only if they choose to work, but is under the rule of government whether they like it or not ("sovereign citizen" idiocy notwithstanding).
    • Employers can also be further regulated/limited by the government, but the government is limited by...itself.
    I would say that it is a mischaracterization to claim that companies don't have to follow the constitution, because the constitution was never meant to govern businesses. It would be akin to claiming that a parent is violating their child's constitutional rights punishing them without a trial by jury. The government has, separate from the constitution, established departments to govern businesses' practices and parental conduct, but the constitution itself does not apply to anything other than the government itself.
     
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