<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Like I said I do not think the Heat will have as good a season as they did last year, and the top three seeds go first to the division winners. I think they will have one less win then the 76ers this season, and be the third seed and whats wrong with the Bulls over the Pacers? Sure they got Artest back, but they lost Reggie, and will not have as good a shooter in the clutch. I know they will be good, but I still think the Heat will be better. As far as the Nuggets not making the playoffs honestly I forgot them, but I did get a little bias to the bottom of the western conference.</div> The Heat are almost a lock for 52-55 wins. How many games do you expect the Sixers to win? I don't see winning 50 games without making any improvements to their roster.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">The Heat are almost a lock for 52-55 wins. How many games do you expect the Sixers to win? I don't see winning 50 games without making any improvements to their roster.</div> They actually did improve there roster not by bringing in new players, but getting there players healthy this will be Webber first full season with AI the 76ers went 17-11 after the Webber trade, and Webber was not even playing to the level he is capable of. With the injury he had it is a two season injury to recover from and last season was the second season. Also with Cheeks at the helm the whole roster will be improved for one they will have a consistent lineup, and he will use players better. I do not think the Heat are a lock for 50 they did not start really dominating until moving Damon into the starting lineup and Wade to the two guard spot Jones has opted out, and how healthy can Shaq be this season. He showed last season his body at this point in his career does break down.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Like I said I do not think the Heat will have as good a season as they did last year, and the top three seeds go first to the division winners. I think they will have one less win then the 76ers this season, and be the third seed and whats wrong with the Bulls over the Pacers? Sure they got Artest back, but they lost Reggie, and will not have as good a shooter in the clutch. I know they will be good, but I still think the Heat will be better. As far as the Nuggets not making the playoffs honestly I forgot them, but I did get a little bias to the bottom of the western conference.</div> Miller wasn't as important to the team last year as Artest. And come on, Philly? Well, you are from Pennsylvania, but I doubt they will even make the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As far as the Nuggets not making the playoffs honestly I forgot them, but I did get a little bias to the bottom of the western conference.</div>Looks like you forgot the Kings too .People putting the Warriors and Lakers ahead of the Kings .Most people are sleeping on Sacramento.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ArizonaSportsFan22:</div><div class="quote_post">Miller wasn't as important to the team last year as Artest. And come on, Philly? Well, you are from Pennsylvania, but I doubt they will even make the playoffs.</div> Consider Miller was averaging 20 points a game for them when Jermaine went down he was a pretty importnat part, and 76ers wont even make the playoffs? Ok its your opinion I guess you can have one. This is a opinion thread anyway, but I have mine and you have yours does not mean you have to like mine.
[quote name='Best Kept Secret']Eastern Conference 2. Philadelphia 76ers- They will have the highest scoring duo in the league this upcoming season in my opinion with Webber and Allen Iverson, and I think Igoudala will emerge as a better jump shooter, and scorer averaging around 15 points a game. Hopefully Korver will get less playing time meaning some of his shot attempts will go to Igoudala. Are you thinking correctly? The Sixers may not even win their own division, and they definately will not be better than the Heat. They will not be the highest scoring duo, that's going to be Shaq and Wade who will both average over 20 points a game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">Looks like you forgot the Kings too .People putting the Warriors and Lakers ahead of the Kings .Doesnt even make sense.</div> Not really I just do not think they will make it. Like your slogan said leading the league in key injuries, and their team is not as deep any more to play through those injuries.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker31:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='Best Kept Secret']Eastern Conference 2. Philadelphia 76ers- They will have the highest scoring duo in the league this upcoming season in my opinion with Webber and Allen Iverson, and I think Igoudala will emerge as a better jump shooter, and scorer averaging around 15 points a game. Hopefully Korver will get less playing time meaning some of his shot attempts will go to Igoudala. Are you thinking correctly? The Sixers may not even win their own division, and they definately will not be better than the Heat. They will not be the highest scoring duo, that's going to be Shaq and Wade who will both average over 20 points a game.</div> Even if Wade and Shaq average 20 each AI averages 30 and Webber 20 they already average more..
^they won 50 games last year with all those injuries.Now somehow the LAKERS are magically better?!Oh well,you did say your list was biased at the bottom
The Rockets and T-Wolves over the Mavs. I doubt the T-Wolves will be making the playoffs. You are putting these 2 losing teams in the top 3 seeds. And if Artest was able to play and the team was healthy Miller would go back to his... 12 PPG?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">this will be Webber first full season with AI the 76ers went 17-11 after the Webber trade, and Webber was not even playing to the level he is capable of.</div> Yea and this will be Kidd, VC, and RJ's first full season together, RJ couldn't play at the level he's capable of last year and this year he will be able to. They will win the division hands down. If Philly didn't win the division last year and they don't bring in anyone to improve the roster how will they win this year?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Even if Wade and Shaq average 20 each AI averages 30 and Webber 20 they already average more..</div> Wade and Shaq Amare and Marion JO and Artest Duncan and Manu Allen and Lewis ... Webber is past his prime and is injury prone. The Sixers have no one else. You are there fan so that's why you think they will make it I guess.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Even if Wade and Shaq average 20 each AI averages 30 and Webber 20 they already average more..</div> Webber is at the point in his career where he averages 15-17 points a night. Wade will average close to 30 and Shaq will definately be over 20.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ArizonaSportsFan22:</div><div class="quote_post">Here are my early picks: East 1.Miami(They were the best last year and still are) 2.Indiana(They got Artest back. They only lost in 6 to Detroit without him and this is a big boost) 3.New Jersey(Healthy trio of all-stars and some nice role players) 4.Detroit(No Larry Brown) 5.Chicago(Will improve from last year but still no match for the Pistons and Pacers) 6.Boston(Okay team...may lose Pierce...) 7.Wahington(Great trade getting Caron and Atkins + getting rid of that trash. But they lost big time when Hughes left and the East is tougher this year.) 8.Cleveland (They almost made it last year and now have Hughes. They don't have much depth though. West 1.Phoenix(Improved defense + their great offense) 2.San Antonio(Very close to first, but they are aging and not much depth IMO...) 3.Denver(Will improve from last year's nice 2nd half) 4.Dallas(Improved defense under Avery, but won't win division...) 5.Houston(Were very good last year and will get better) 6.Sonics(Will lose a couple players but still are a good team) 7.Sacramento(Who else?) 8.Warriors(Memphis may make it but they are the Warrior's only real competition. The Warriors are still going to be good after last year's nice 2nd half...)</div> Well, anyway, what do you guys think of mine?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ArizonaSportsFan22:</div><div class="quote_post">The Rockets and T-Wolves over the Mavs. I doubt the T-Wolves will be making the playoffs. You are putting these 2 losing teams in the top 3 seeds. And if Artest was able to play and the team was healthy Miller would go back to his... 12 PPG?</div> Someone has to win that division I think with Garnett the Wolves have the best shot at it I put two losing teams in the top three who was the other team besides the Wolves that I put in there? Also yes the Rockets over the Mavs the Rockets took the Mavs to the limit last season and really did not pull it together until mid way through the season this year so they could have a better record. You guys acting like just because I said it its going to happen. Its my opinion feel free to have your own.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker31:</div><div class="quote_post">Webber is at the point in his career where he averages 15-17 points a night. Wade will average close to 30 and Shaq will definately be over 20.</div> Interesting you say he should average 15-17 when with a knee injury the past two seasons he managed to average 19 points a game. This is expected to be one of his healthier seasons over the past three seasons so we will see how it goes.
The east looks good, but Phoenix won't be 1 because they will lose two great scorers in JJ and QRich as much as everyone knocks Q he can score. I disagree about SA's depth, they have Barry, Rasho, and Udrih off the nech which isn't so bad.
^He averaged around 19 the last 2 seasons because he was benefitting from Sacramento's offensive system.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">Someone has to win that division I think with Garnett the Wolves have the best shot at it I put two losing teams in the top three who was the other team besides the Wolves that I put in there? Also yes the Rockets over the Mavs the Rockets took the Mavs to the limit last season and really did not pull it together until mid way through the season this year so they could have a better record. You guys acting like just because I said it its going to happen. Its my opinion feel free to have your own.</div> Garnett and the Wolves sucked last year. Wally is the only good player that I believe they have besides Garnett. Sprewell wants his big contract so he isn't trying and Cassell is old. The Sonics only are losing a couple players out of the great team that they had last year, and the Nuggets still have that good team + maybe they get Finley. And they have a very good coach that made them do so good in the 2nd half. As for the Mavs, were you watching game 7? They were better than the Rockets last year and Avery Johnson is a defensive-minded coach so after a whole off season with him they should also improve their horrible defense.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ArizonaSportsFan22:</div><div class="quote_post">Wade and Shaq Amare and Marion JO and Artest Duncan and Manu Allen and Lewis ... Webber is past his prime and is injury prone. The Sixers have no one else. You are there fan so that's why you think they will make it I guess.</div> Actually no it's because of all the players you listed none really average around 30 a game. Allen Iverson always seems to average thirty a game or 28 at the least so then even if Webber averages even 19 thats already 49 so they could very well average around 50 points a game together.
