Jesus man you can't even have a political or deep conversation without your own emotions and bias getting in the way. It's like if somebody doesn't believe exactly what you believe, you freak the fuck out. Well what about this?!?!?! and what about that?!?!?! you can't answer anything I am saying. So i don't know if you are cool to talk with about other shit but god damn getting into it with you about all this other shit is tiring and just straight annoying
Do the Antifa people not realize that if they succeed in changing society to Communism they'd be the first ones to disappear in the purges?
For someone to claim they don't give a shit or have an opinion one way or the other...that was a shitload of pretty strong opinions against one side that quickly morphed into strong opinions about everyone else's opinions...whew....I'm thinking it's his way of exercising some sort of Gestault therapy
My concern already with how you word this is almost a defensive approach already in favor of Antifa. Also by just calling them vandals. These aren't just vandals. These aren't kids taking out the neighborhoods mailboxes. They show up, they spread hateful messages about the police and are very misinformed in general. They bring knives and set shit on fire, throw shit at police officers, etc. Borderline domestic terrorists. I mean they show up and do this shit even when there is nothing to counter protest as we saw in the earlier protests of Trump whether it be in Portland or anywhere else at the time. Berkeley riots because some conservatives were set for speeches there. On the other hand you have Neo Nazis. Yes, very terrible. How many of them are there? who knows, could be quite a bit, could be a low number. It's low in the public eye because those groups are shunned and rightfully so. I think the issue I have is with Antifa and how accepting people are of them with the current political culture going on and this leftist ideology. Everybody right wing is a nazi to these guys, punch a nazi in the face etc. It's baseless stuff. Obviously I dislike both groups but like I said, one is more accepted than the other and that's an issue. You even showed that in your wording by saying they are just "vandals". That's not all they are. It's not a coincidence professors have been busted for posing as antifa. professors, whose job it is to teach the youth. I think that in itself is alarming. So for me, I am not defending any side here. Both groups should be shunned completely. There is enough divide in the country already.
I mean I am right here. I never said I don't give a shit. I have stated my opinion and that's that. Am I losing sleep or getting angry over this though? no. Just replying.
Some liberals are too much in acceptance of Antifa as much as some republicans are in acceptance for the white supremacists. pick your poison
No. That's missing the point. Hmm, ok. I was referring to the crimes you've complained about previously, which amount to vandalism. I don't approve of vandalism. I denounce vandalism. But in the long run it's not as harmful as Nazism. If you want to call them domestic terrorists I'm fine with that though. Still isn't as bad as Nazis. That sounds to me like they were protesting something. Protesting is fine. Violence is not. You say you don't have a side, but you rattle on about 'leftist ideology'. I don't ever hear you complain about 'rightist ideology'. Why is that? I don't know, I haven't seen antifa protesting against, say, Jeb Bush or Knute Beuhler. I'm not sure you are correct about this. Yes, you are right. One is defended by the president of the united states, and one isn't. Do you know which one? That's your peculiar little fixation. Tell me, how many professors are there in the USA, and how many of them are members of antifa? Wait, you said posing as antifa? So they were just pretending to be antifa? You'll need to explain that one a bit more, I guess. barfo
The crimes don't just amount to vandalism. You can't call bringing weapons and concealing them, throwing shit at cops and hurting others just vandalism. I don't think we have an issue with too many antifa or too many nazis. I hate that word nazi because I associate it with the ones that killed millions of jews and that to me isn't comparable to some rednecks with a swastika tattoo being racist. Still wrong I just think it's weird we call them nazis. They have zero power and are white supremacists. The word nazi is watered down now. Anybody can be one. Once again it wasn't just a protest. Antifa comes in to incite violence. A protest to me isn't running around breaking glass windows covering my face and hurling things at cops to incite violence. You don't hear me speak of shitty views on the right because it doesn't dominate our society like leftist ideology does. I would have a problem if views from the right dominated our culture but it isn't the case. Whether it's in hollywood or big cities, media, colleges, etc. It is outrageous. It's unacceptable to try and control peoples thoughts and be the thought police, get outraged like progressives do over nothing. Trying to force people to say their pronouns and modern day feminism is garbage. The wage gap myth being peddled around. It goes on and on and kids are being taught this on campuses across the country and just repeating it. It's nonsense. Like I said above, the word nazi has been watered down just as the word racist has and it's because of this crazy ideology. Some people think you are racist if you are trump supporter and while I don't like Trump, I also don't think all of his supporters are racist. It has become completely okay to shit on white people and that is something I don't understand at all. That is racism. Endless list of things really. I highly doubt Trump defends white supremacists. Come on. I know you are a lefty but lets be real. It's ridiculous. Not many professors. I wasn't trying to say all these professors are antifa, I am saying a couple got caught at the berkeley protest. That's all
It was the protestor that brought a gun and then fired it into the crowd of antiprotestors. It was the protestors that brought all the shields and metal bars and they used them attacking violently the anti protestors. It was over 30 anti protestors that went to the hospital while zero protestors went to the hospital. It was an anti protestor that was murdered there not a single protestor was murdered or even close to being murdered.
Do you believe that all this hate directed at African-Americans has miraculously gone away? All you have to do is look at our President. He was sued for not renting to African=Americans and he lost. It was Trump that called for hanging the Central Park 5 who were later exonerated by DNA evidence that proved they were all innocent and yet Trump called for their execution. He has never apologized for that tragic stance.
