Noah Vonleh... and discuss

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I agree and I would also add that his quickness in the high post could be dangerous if we use him right.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    So bodybuilders have trouble putting on muscle, but us regular folk, we have it easy.

    I don't think Vonleh is a regular folk either.
     
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    I was more or less referring to Brian.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Ahh I see, my mistake.
     
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    Actually, it's about the genetics of an individual. I can put on muscle very easily, but my friend couldn't put on any no matter how hard he worked.

    My friend would take protein shakes and work out twice as hard, yet I put on more muscle mass than him. Ironically, he was obviously stronger than me, but I looked physically stronger than him.
     
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    One highlight I did not see in the video from yesterday, was Vonleh diving to the floor after a loose ball. (Happened in the first half) I know that does not sound like much, but we have not seen a lot of that other than Wes.

    It also shows some heart and hustle for a guy who has been accused of having a low motor. I am guessing he got that knock because he was thinking too much as opposed to just going out and playing. He seems methodical with his moves as opposed to someone like TRob who needed to slow down at times.
     
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    Damn son.

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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    You're right, genetics play a role, but unless you're actually testing how much weight you're gaining in relation to your body fat %, it's unlikely you actually know how much muscle mass you're putting on.

    "Weight" and "Muscle mass" are different. If you say, went from 200-220 in a few months, it's very unlikely you stayed at the same body fat %. Like I said, if you're just eyeballing the number on a scale or looking at yourself in the mirror, you can't really tell.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    For the record, Vonleh measured out at the draft combine at 7.3% body fat and 247. That's REALLY good, the guy is shredded. Most bodybuilders operate at somewhere between 6-10% bodyfat. Unless he's got absolutely perfect genetics, he worked incredibly hard to get there and definitely knows a good thing or two about health and nutrition (or he works with people that do). He's probably at or close to his genetic peak, at which point putting on muscle becomes much more difficult.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    And he said he's been using a lot of creatine, so that mass he's put on is not all muscle.
     
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    At a 105lbs it sounds like you were malnourished. Your body needed something, anything and it would grow.
     
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    We were both testing body fat% and weight gain. We started with him being 145lbs/16% and I was at 190lbs/23%. About 4 months in he was at 160-170ish and still 16% fat. I dropped to 177 lbs and 17% body fat.
     
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    I gained 70 lbs in a 3 month period once. I wasn't a fat blob either. I chiseled it down pretty easily (good metabolism) in another couple months.
     
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    While I'm not disagreeing with your premise that Vonleh shouldn't be given a lot of run at the 3, I don't his think handles, or relative lack thereof -- especially relative to two of the biggest superstars of this generation -- is sufficient argument to support that. Guys like Wes Matthews and Tony Allen have obviously been extremely successful without great handle.

    As to Vonleh as a 3 in general, I don't think it should be a full-time idea, but can see a couple scenarios where it might make sense in short stints:
    • going big offensively with Meyers stretching the court as the 4
    • going big defensively against Lebron
     
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    His legs are crazy big.

    For comparison -- LMA at 21:

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    Yeah, dude is a physical specimen. 6'10" guys just don't have legs like that. Legs like that are for shorter squatty guys like me. Might be why it looks like he doesn't have great hops.
     
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    If he can develop some good footwork and put work in on the block, the sky is the limit
     
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    Charles barkley "lite"?
     
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    I think that's a good thing really. He just needs footwork training. Players that aren't leapers tend to last much long in the NBA
     

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