Noah Vonleh... and discuss

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    If anything, it bodes well for his post defense.

    DMC wouldn't be able to back down that. Remember Chuck Hayes from his HOU days? He had simlar tree trunk legs and checked centers on the reg. In fact, before he got injured his DRtg was sub-100 as a 6'7" center.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    190*.23 = 43.7

    170*.17=30.09

    190-43.7 = 146.3 lean mass

    170-30.09=139.1 lean mass

    So in that 4 months you lost 13 pounds, but in fact ~6 pounds of that was lean body mass. So you lost ~6 pounds of muscle and ~7 pounds of fat.

    Your friend:

    145*.16=23.2

    165*.16=26.4

    145-23=122

    165-26=139

    Your friend put on 17 pounds of lean muscle. I find that hard to believe, but if he just started working out for the first time then it's possible. If he was already close to his genetic peak, then there's no way.
     
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    Hayes was more like 6'5" or 6'6".
     
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    I agree with..... everyone. On one hand you don't want to put a player (especially a young player) in a position that does not give him the best chance to succeed, but on the other hand some coaches don't believe in positions and just want their best players on the floor.

    Could Vonleh be a Lamar Odom type player for a few minutes a game with Leonard out high spreading the floor? Maybe we just label them as 3 forwards on the floor with two guards who can handle the ball? (Dame and CJ) Make other teams match up with us vs the other way around.

    Yes I know we are getting a head of our selves. He is still young and this is just summer league, but it is still fun to think about.
     
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    Umm, not sure what your point is. Lebron and Durant both play SF.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    That makes sense then. He was skinny thin. I'm talking like a tooth pick. But he worked out at least twice as hard and drank those weight gaining drinks like water.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I like the Lamar Odom comparison a lot--a natural 4 who could play the 3 on occasion.

    Also, I would really like to see him match up against Lebron and Durant this season, just to see what effect his length, mass, and athleticism have on them.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Noah also has a higher no-step and max vert than Meyers and Plumlee.

    His hops are fine. He just doesn't really need it with that huge wingspan.
     
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    Why would DMC back down his soon-to-be teammate?:cool2:
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    What did you gain? They implanted regulation USMC brass balls? :drumroll:
     
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    I've only watched the SL highlights, but what I've noticed so far is that:

    -He likes taking the ball to the basket! And in all sorts of situations.

    -He gets down in the paint, moves around according to what's going on with the ball, and gets in position for a pass - when he gets the ball he goes up to dunk. This is great, but also needs a bit of work as sometimes he's blind to the defense that's coming to block his shot. With a little more awareness he'll be able to get cleaner shots off around the rim.

    -He also will put the ball on the floor and attack the hoop! OMG, this is AWESOME. And it's why he compares more to Bosh than LMA. He'll turn it over a lot when doing this in the NBA, but over time he'll learn how to do it better so he doesn't get stripped. The fact that he's physically able to dribble the ball has me very excited.

    -He can shoot! A lot of the time big-handed players have a hard time shooting the ball. Not the case here.

    -He can pass! Saw a couple nice interior passes from him. Again - more Bosh than LMA. Also saw a nice pass-fake that he turned into an open 3-pointer. It appears he understands basic ball movement concepts. That's fucking great!

    -He can move. I saw a little Euro-step from him! But even though he can move, he's still a little uncoordinated. When he gains fluidity in his movements his game will explode.

    -He's not afraid of physical contact! He doesn't fold like a piece of paper when nudged by a PG!

    I thought he was going to be 1-2 years out from getting playing time, but based off what little I've seen I can see him being part of the rotation this season. He has skills and he'll need court time in order to develop them. He really reminds me a lot of Bosh, but much larger and stronger. Ain't nobody gonna miss LMA when this kid develops! And yes, that's a WHEN he develops, not IF he develops.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    No way. He's not a small forward. He's quick for a power forward, but not nearly quick enough to be a small forward. He's perfect for a four though.
     
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    You don't think he's as quick is Batum or Durant?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    It's hard to extrapolate the level of competition and athletes you see in Summer League to guys like Durant (and I freely admit, I didn't watch Vonleh play at all last year so I can't say what he looked like in the real league in the few times he was on the court).
     
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    Noah's agility time was identical Luel Deng's and Kawhi Leonards, and better than many players who have played SF, Butler, Green, Durant. His sprint time was better than Aminu, Ariza, Webster, Danny Green, Jimmy Butler....
     
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    It really doesn't matter what you call him, I just think we could play him at forward along side a strict PF like Ed Davis.
     
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    Well I guess I will stick with my theme in that this is the year to try him at the 3 once or twice if its at all possibility. Everything seem to point PF but why not give it a shot in spot minutes. Nothing to lose this year and everything to gain.

    I also feel like with the versatility and competition for starting spots we should give everything a shot
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't.
     
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    In fact, Noah's lane and sprint numbers were almost exactly what the "average" is for a SF, according to combine numbers. Much closer to SF than PF. His max vertical is also higher than average for any position.
     

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