Norm Powell Contract

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by illmatic99, Jun 11, 2021.

  1. James lamphear

    James lamphear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2018
    Messages:
    7,881
    Likes Received:
    5,559
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well they didn't get much from Brooklyn because Houston had there hands tied by Harden wanted out so right that decrease Houston chances get close fair market with trade. More likely that Houston probably didn't want to trade him to western conference team so that probably hurt them there. Now CJ because he got a big contract don't me a lesser value player with on there contract is not just as good as CJ the player. To me CJ contract is to big for what CJ gives us on the floor. Yes he can score but besides that the rest of his game is average or below average.
     
  2. 1 Eye Jack

    1 Eye Jack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    2,208
    Likes Received:
    1,769
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Vice President for Display company
    Location:
    Albany, Oregon
    Tough call the guy deserves to stay then you bust your ass and field the best team possible.
     
  3. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,654
    Likes Received:
    17,892
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Its now up to Jody & Bert to put a few stars around Dame. She should go into tax big time for the next 2-3 years to build a Championship team like the big boys are. Some of the elete teams are way over 100 million in Tax penalties. Marketing and winning can recoup some of it.
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  4. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,060
    Likes Received:
    35,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "On a burning bridge your options are minimal at best.
    Depending on where you're standing. And how much breath is in your chest."

    Summed up the answer you're probably gonna get lol
     
  5. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,626
    Likes Received:
    16,770
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your whole take on CJ's value is way off in my estimation. Why in the world would you think his value is at an all time low when he is coming off a career year? Is it because he had one bad series? I sure hope you don't think that the NBA evaluates a veteran by just looking at six games.

    The fact is, just like we know that CJ and Dame weigh each other down by both of them dominating the ball on offense and playing bad defense, other teams will know the same thing. GMs around the league will think like people in here do, including yourself, that CJ will play better without Dame (it's your entire reason to trade Dame instead of CJ and you seem to think other GMs can't see that and need a season of proof). There is value out there for a guy who can score like CJ. I don't think he's for everyone but I think there will be enough teams interested that we don't have to take pennies on the dollar in a trade that has CJ outgoing.

    As far as your question of who we can get for CJ let me say this, you don't know. That question is a trap. Someone gets creative and says we can get Siakam in a three way and you will shoot it down. Someone says that if the Clips lose, Paul George will be available and CJ would be a good centerpiece in a trade package for him and you shoot that down. I know this game. So the likely answer is we don't know what player, that's on CJ's level we'll get in return for CJ, it just stands to reason that we can get someone of close to equal value because that's how trading commodities works.
     
  6. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    37,111
    Likes Received:
    15,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    CJ the player is nice. CJ the contract is not so nice.
     
  7. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    37,111
    Likes Received:
    15,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    CJ could be an incredible 6th man somewhere. He’d be a great Ginobili type guy coming off the bench.
     
    Natebishop3 likes this.
  8. James lamphear

    James lamphear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2018
    Messages:
    7,881
    Likes Received:
    5,559
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Didn't Paul try that and wasn't successful by doing that so he decided he wasn't going to do that anymore. So I believe she don't have to she won't do it but might not have any choice next year.
     
  9. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    26,461
    Likes Received:
    20,058
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Poster Boy
    Location:
    Blazerlandia
    The ONLY circumstance in which I would trade Dame is if he asked to be traded. In which case, I would accommodate his wishes out of respect and appreciation.
     
    Phatguysrule and LenPa like this.
  10. Labinot41

    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2017
    Messages:
    9,320
    Likes Received:
    8,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Norm is working out with CJ Elleby, they seem to be close

    Screenshot_20210623-161544_Instagram.jpg
     
  11. Mr. Robot

    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2017
    Messages:
    4,482
    Likes Received:
    4,114
    Trophy Points:
    113
    hes probably teaching him how to be a selfish player

    between cj mccollum and powell, he can hardly find better mentors

    having one guy like that is too much, let alone three of them (carmelo), they wouldnt pass the ball to god, let alone another player
     
  12. blazedanugz

    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    2,170
    Likes Received:
    1,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Bobby marks states that we have the full MLE but if we use it then we’ll be hard capped. How do we have that? we used it last year..

    we probably lose the Full MLE when burka contract is guaranteed and Powell is resigned right?
     
  13. tester551

    tester551 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,037
    Likes Received:
    3,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hes correct. The full MLE is there to use, but if used, we'd be hard capped at ~$5M above the Lux Tax line... severely limiting options.

    Most likely we'll use the tax MLE at ~$6M to avoid the hard cap
     
    Wizard Mentor likes this.
  14. blazedanugz

    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    2,170
    Likes Received:
    1,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    appreciate it.
    So if we use the full MLE, we can still guarantee Nurk and resign Powell or not? Or is a situation that things need to happen in a certain order?

    if we resign Powell and guarantee Nurk, does the full MLE go away?
     
  15. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,742
    Likes Received:
    55,376
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    He didn't strike me as especially selfish. He missed some open shots but he didn't force himself into the offense like CJ does.
     
  16. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And i say again, the only team that wins when trading a generational talent, is the team receiving that generational talent. OKC has bucu draft picks that may or may not ever lead to a contending team. With todays one and done, most players in the draft are a total crapshoot. I will stick with the generational talent until he retires, or wants out.
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  17. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    14,356
    Likes Received:
    14,432
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master of Xen Foro
    Location:
    La Grande, OR
    I am currently on the don't-trade-Dame-but-if-we-want-to-rebuild-use-Dame-to-get-Ja-Morant train. Ja may also be a generational talent.
     
  18. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    14,685
    Likes Received:
    11,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    un-retired
    Location:
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Ukraine
    I was gonna try to find out if Powell actually was better at assists than CJ. But CJ is much better, in fact his 23% assist rate was his best ever and up 10 points from two years ago. Powell assist % was only 10. But I do think he can learn some toughness from Powell.
     
  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,742
    Likes Received:
    55,376
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Powell didn't really handle the ball much, if I remember.
     
  20. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    14,685
    Likes Received:
    11,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    un-retired
    Location:
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Ukraine
    Right. CJ had a usg % 0f 27 and Norm about 20. I agree with you on the eyeball test, that Norm looked like maybe he wanted to pass more but he learned in a different system than Stotts, so I don't think guys were where he thought they would be.
     

Share This Page