That's the problem though. Everybody here watched Sergio this year, and would never consider the "just paper" comparison. First of all you mention 3 point shooting, but don't mention how many they took. Sessions averages less than 1 attempt per game from the 3 point line. Sessions shot 3 times as many free throws as Sergio and Blake combined. When shooting those free throws, he shoots about 80%. He averages 4 attempts per game, which puts him at 3 points per game just from the free throw line. The other thing not mentioned is in Sessions previous season he shot a very high percentage from the 3 point line. So he has the ability, it probably just needs tapped. The assist per 48 can be misleading as well. Are you going to tell me the finishers in Milwaukee are better than Portland right now? The difference is 1 per 48. What would it be with Aldrige and Roy being the finisher for him, as opposed to CharlieV and an injured Andrew Bogut.... Lastly, the chance of Sergio showing up with an increased physicality during his career is zero. At least Sessions shows that he gets it when it comes to working hard and making it in the leauge. Has Sergio shown improvement, ever? He has been here 3 years, and I couldn't tell the difference between Sergio now, and the first time I saw him in a game.
Bayless is not going to be a real point in this league. He will be Jarrett Jack on speed. It sucks, but it is true. *Maybe* he'll end up as Monta Ellis. I still would not want him on our team. Not if we could have a real PG who makes other players better. iWatas
What do you mean by real point? If you mean pass first PG, I would respond with, when was the last time a true pass first PG won in the finals?
I think we are just tired of Sergio, and he is tired of us. That is why I think he can blossom into a star - elsewhere. Time will tell. Roy and Aldridge are not catch-and-shooters. Sergio got his assists off of Rudy, Outlaw and Frye, as likely as not. Sergio is probably still a better passer. I'll buy this, at least for Portland, going forward. As I have said, I think Sergio will still be a star, but not here. And Ramon looks like an excellent bet for a long-term solution at PG for us. iWatas
This fucking "real pg" that everyone wants will not happen, b/c CP3 is not coming to town. Roy even said he likes a pg like Bayless, who can play off the ball and allow Roy to handle the ball in the 4th
Well it's a good thing they play on hardwood and not on paper. If you want to say that Ramon's 17.5 PER is somehow the same as Sergio's fairly poor PER of 12.5 and that Ramon's draw foul rate of 15% vs. Sergio's 7% are at all comparable on paper then I don't think you're digging hard enough. I've seen enough of Sessions this year to know just with my naked eye that he's a much more aggressive driver and better finisher than Chacho, with equal court vision and setup skills and is far less turnover prone (Sergio's 8.4 assists and 3.5 turnovers per36 (2.3 A/TO ratio) are not in any way shape or form superior to Sessions 7.9 assists and 2.5 turnovers per36 (3.16 A/TO ratio)). I've said it for awhile now, that if Sergio had the ability to drive and finish or stop and pop off of pick and rolls he could be a starter because defenses wouldn't have to sag off of him. Instead He's had three years to show whether or not he can do that and he hasn't been able to deliver.
Look, I know already that we will not agree on Sergio. Time will tell. In the meantime, since everyone seems pretty sure that Sergio is gone, let's see if we can find common ground. Do you agree that Sessions would be a substantial upgrade, and possibly the PG we want going forward? iWatas
I think he could be part of a solution. Good PG are rare in the league, rare enough, that if you don't have a solution in place (or planned solution) then you should take a look at this kid. How many teams dropped the ball with Mo Williams? Who knows how long Devin Harris was on the market before he finally found a place he fit? I guess it all comes down to if management feels he fits within the system in place now.
The same thing can be said about this year. He only shot 34, which is less than half of a 3 point attempt per game. That alone tells me he takes other options besides shooting the 3. I would have to guess even out of those, many were shot clock winding down/end of quarter/end of half shots that had to be taken.
true. Stats aren't a direct reflection of a guy's ability. Other factors like the guy's role on the team play into the numbers. With one set of teammates a player might be called on to primarily be a scorer while with another he may be more of a rebounder/defender. What we really know about Sessions outside shot is that we don't really know much about it because (for whatever reason) he's used it sparingly. I'm sure KP has a good bead on why that is and whether he has the ability to make that shot. I've heard Pritchard repeat the surrounding Roy with shooters stuff enough to expect that would be a requirement in a PG free agent signing. If a FA only has solid range out to just short of the three point line, but he can bury that shot consistently, are they eliminated from consideration? How does this vary by position? STOMP
That's really the key, IMO...what type of shooting does KP mean? People parse "shooter" as "long-range gunner," but what about a strong mid-range shooter? That is certainly a "shooter" and the type of player that can punish double-teams. Such a player doesn't stretch the defense quite as much, but definitely not someone you want to just leave. I think making a "shooter" a requirement only disqualifies players like Sergio, who can't reliably shoot from any distance.
Sessions would allow Roy to work a lot less on offense and allow him to let Ramon run the offense from time to time which would be very refreshing.
Yea that is a good question. I can see a guy who has that "In between game" being a killer here. The guy that can penetrate the paint, but when the lane is shut off, pull up and hit the in between shot. That is what will be important.
I can deal with people saying Sergio will find some kind of success on a different team, even though I think it's unlikely, but I think it is ridiculous when someone says he will become a "star."
Your opinion. Mine is that if Sergio is allowed to loosen up, he can shred defenses. In Portland, he has second-guessed himself into relative paralysis. Poor-shooting and poor defending point guards have become stars. See Kidd, Jason. iWatas
Jason Kidd was an elite defender in his prime. All you have to do is look at his defensive ratings at his prime - and he had a sub-100 rating which is fantastic - especially when you remember that those teams he played on did not usually have great defensive big-men behind him. Add the fact that his turn-over percent has never been as bad as Sergio's and while he is no shooter - his TS% has often been over the .500 mark - something Sergio has yet to achieve - and I honestly fail to see how the two are comparable.
Look - I know full well that you don't like Sergio. But let's at least stay remotely factual? Sergio's Assist/Turnover ratio has been: 2.9, 2.3, and 2.4 Kidd's Assist/Turnover Ratio, his first 3 seasons: 2.4, 2.4, and 3.0 They are comparable in that both are 6'3" PGs, sensational passers and poor shooters. The jury is still out whether Sergio is become very good, or wash out. TIME WILL TELL, PEOPLE. iWatas
