I had to do 'research' to figure out what to call a sixteenuple post.</p> In the end, it was well worth it. I agree with what you said Dumpo </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> How much can you get for an aging PG averaging just 11 ppg, who's obviously unhappy? Other teams have leverage here.</p> </div></p> </p> Not true. The Nets have all the leverage, and now is the perfect time to deal him. he is a unique talent, and everyone sees how Team USA is undefeated when he plays on it. Every star in the league wants to play with him, and right now every one of them is texting their GMs demanding that they try to acquire him. The question is whether they are willing to sell their soul to do so. There is always one idiot (see: sacramento signing Mikki) and that's all it takes. Rod is playing this perfectly by signalling that he will listen to offers but will not give Kidd away. If the Nets play this right, they will just need a half-season to rebuild, like they did when they acquired Carter. The question is whether they will give the reins to Marcus or acquire another starting PG.</p> </div></p> </p> How bout they do both? Acquire a starting PG, and let Marcus and that PG get lots of minutes, sort of like a TJ-Caldo tandem.</p> Unless, of course, you're referring to getting someone like, say, Andre Miller. Idk if I'd like that.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I had to do 'research' to figure out what to call a sixteenuple post.</p> In the end, it was well worth it. I agree with what you said Dumpo </p> </div></p> </p> haha...at first, I thought he was trying to make a point...that the statement made was pretty ridiculous.</p>
What would be the point of getting Jar and Farmar when we have Marcus. Marcus may not be starting material but I think he can pan into a great sixth man. That's why I'd rather Harris. He is getting better plus he has finals experince if we can ever get back there.</p>
Kidd's value is going to be more now than it will be come deadline time. You maybe able to extract a prospect and picks now. By deadline time, you're looking at picks and cap space.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> How much can you get for an aging PG averaging just 11 ppg, who's obviously unhappy? Other teams have leverage here.</p> </div></p> Name every available player that can push a good team like Dallas or Houston from title contenders to title favorites.</p> (And if you are siting PPG as a key stat, you are waaaaay off track. What was his PPG in the Pan-Am games, where he should have been the MVP?)</p> </p> </div></p> </p> I'm not saying its a KEY stat, just citing it as opposed to his points averages in previous years. I meant it to tie in with the fact that he's on decline.</p> </p> And Dallas doesn't even need him IMO. They have a team that's won 60+ games the past two seasons, and I think they're saving some gas for the playoffs this year.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> How much can you get for an aging PG averaging just 11 ppg, who's obviously unhappy? Other teams have leverage here.</p> </div></p> Name every available player that can push a good team like Dallas or Houston from title contenders to title favorites.</p> (And if you are siting PPG as a key stat, you are waaaaay off track. What was his PPG in the Pan-Am games, where he should have been the MVP?)</p> </p> </div></p> </p> I'm not saying its a KEY stat, just citing it as opposed to his points averages in previous years. I meant it to tie in with the fact that he's on decline.</p> </p> And Dallas doesn't even need him IMO. They have a team that's won 60+ games the past two seasons, and I think they're saving some gas for the playoffs this year.</p> </div></p> The Celtics gon choke like Dallas.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> How much can you get for an aging PG averaging just 11 ppg, who's obviously unhappy? Other teams have leverage here.</p> </div></p> </p> Not true. The Nets have all the leverage, and now is the perfect time to deal him. he is a unique talent, and everyone sees how Team USA is undefeated when he plays on it. Every star in the league wants to play with him, and right now every one of them is texting their GMs demanding that they try to acquire him. The question is whether they are willing to sell their soul to do so. There is always one idiot (see: sacramento signing Mikki) and that's all it takes. Rod is playing this perfectly by signalling that he will listen to offers but will not give Kidd away. If the Nets play this right, they will just need a half-season to rebuild, like they did when they acquired Carter. The question is whether they will give the reins to Marcus or acquire another starting PG.</p> </div></p> </p> You couldn't have put this as the first of 12 posts??</p> </p> In any case, the Nets are going nowhere and now's as good a time to deal him as any, so why don't other teams have leverage if that's the case? If the Nets were on a winning binge right now, then theNets would be able to get the most back, obviously. Of course stars want to play with him, he's still an excellent PG, all the stars wanted to play with KG as well, but not too many teams made legit offers, and the Celtics came away with him relatively cheaply. KG is way better than Kidd.</p> </p> And the big difference between this and Carter, you guys acquired Vince Carter for garbage. In this case, you'd be trading a perennial all-star and definitely not getting equal value in return. How would it take only half a season to recover from that?</p>
[quote name='Black Republican']</p> [quote name='David_Ortiz']</p> [quote name='ghoti']</p> [quote name='David_Ortiz']</p> How much can you get for an aging PG averaging just 11 ppg, who's obviously unhappy? Other teams have leverage here.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Name every available player that can push a good team like Dallas or Houston from title contenders to title favorites.</p> (And if you are siting PPG as a key stat, you are waaaaay off track. What was his PPG in the Pan-Am games, where he should have been the MVP?)</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> I'm not saying its a KEY stat, just citing it as opposed to his points averages in previous years. I meant it to tie in with the fact that he's on decline.</p> </p> And Dallas doesn't even need him IMO. They have a team that's won 60+ games the past two seasons, and I think they're saving some gas for the playoffs this year.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> The Celtics gon choke like Dallas.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> LOL Where the Nets gonna be this spring? Home on the sofa bud.</p> </p> Those choking Celtics have also annhilated your Nets both times they've met this season. So I don't know who you are to say that.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> How much can you get for an aging PG averaging just 11 ppg, who's obviously unhappy? Other teams have leverage here.</p> </div></p> Name every available player that can push a good team like Dallas or Houston from title contenders to title favorites.</p> (And if you are siting PPG as a key stat, you are waaaaay off track. What was his PPG in the Pan-Am games, where he should have been the MVP?)</p> </p> </div></p> </p> I'm not saying its a KEY stat, just citing it as opposed to his points averages in previous years. I meant it to tie in with the fact that he's on decline.</p> </p> And Dallas doesn't even need him IMO. They have a team that's won 60+ games the past two seasons, and I think they're saving some gas for the playoffs this year.</p> </div></p> Agreed, Mavs aren't behind the gun on Kidd. This is a team that was a finals team. They got a bad matchup. Specifically against the Warriors. The Warriors had thier number all year last season, it's a hump they either avoid or slam through. It'd be funny if the Mavs lose out games just to drop a spot to avoid the Warriors...they should. Then again, this could be a mental hump that they need Kidd to remedy. The more they feel that way, the more the Nets get in return. Josh Howard must be the starting price.</p> </p> </p> </p>
[quote name='David_Ortiz']</p> [quote name='Black Republican']</p> [quote name='David_Ortiz']</p> [quote name='ghoti']</p> [quote name='David_Ortiz']</p> How much can you get for an aging PG averaging just 11 ppg, who's obviously unhappy? Other teams have leverage here.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Name every available player that can push a good team like Dallas or Houston from title contenders to title favorites.</p> (And if you are siting PPG as a key stat, you are waaaaay off track. What was his PPG in the Pan-Am games, where he should have been the MVP?)</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> I'm not saying its a KEY stat, just citing it as opposed to his points averages in previous years. I meant it to tie in with the fact that he's on decline.</p> </p> And Dallas doesn't even need him IMO. They have a team that's won 60+ games the past two seasons, and I think they're saving some gas for the playoffs this year.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> The Celtics gon choke like Dallas.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> LOL. Where the Nets gonna be this spring? Home on the sofa bud.</p> </p> Those choking Celtics have also annhilated your Nets both times they've met this season. So I don't know who you are to say that.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> The Celtics are the better team right now........Key word right now.</p> </p>
This team is still gelling. Just wait until everything starts clicking (no, everything hasn't clicked yet), and then imagine how good they'd be.</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Celtics are the better team right now........Key word right now.</div></p> And the NETS own the Atlantic Division, right?</p> </p> exactly. shut up.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> This team is still gelling. Just wait until everything starts clicking (no, everything hasn't clicked yet), and then imagine how good they'd be.</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Celtics are the better team right now........Key word right now.</div></p> And the NETS own the Atlantic Division, right?</p> </p> exactly. shut up.</p> </div></p> No.The Celts are the best team in the league rite now. </p> </p>
BR, I think you are shooting yourself in the foot. The Celtics have been the best team all season thus far. Having a 17-2 record is no fluke.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> BR, I think you are shooting yourself in the foot. The Celtics have been the best team all season thus far. Having a 17-2 record is no fluke.</p> </div></p> That's what im sayin'.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> BR, I think you are shooting yourself in the foot. The Celtics have been the best team all season thus far. Having a 17-2 record is no fluke.</p> </div></p> That's what im sayin'.</p> </p> </div></p> </p> And you also claim that they will choke like the mavericks, however you have nothing to back that up.</p> No one in the East matches up well with Boston. So I dont see how it is diffucult to believe that they will get to the finals with this roster.</p>
hmmmm maybe you are right BR. The Celtics are the best team right now [spelling buddy]. And by the time the playoffs come around, the Celtics will be ready, rested, hungry, gelled, and ready to kick anyone's ass all over the arena.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> BR, I think you are shooting yourself in the foot. The Celtics have been the best team all season thus far. Having a 17-2 record is no fluke.</p> </div></p> That's what im sayin'.</p> </p> </div></p> </p> And you also claim that they will choke like the mavericks, however you have nothing to back that up.</p> No one in the East matches up well with Boston. So I dont see how they wont get to the finals with this roster.</p> </div></p> You better believe that,in the Playoffs.</p> </p>
Again, you provide no substance to back that up. And by substance, i mean facts that support your argument.</p>
