Max I'd offer Nurk is around 4 years 50 million.... he has major injury history and centers are often played off the court in the playoffs. If he bets on himself and has a huge season props to him I'd be ok paying him more in that case. I don't want the team stuck with a bad contract. Roco is the more debatable scenario... his position is much more scarce. But he also has some injury history (not as much though) and his offense has been poor, and one on one defense sometimes overrated. I'd still probably offer him a bit more than Nurk. Simons I don't even know I'd offer an extension, he had promise as a bench player last year but I don't want the team stuck with an Allen Crabbe contract. I'm not sure he is going to be more than an end of the bench backup, but if he figures it out he has good starter upside.
I'd offer Nurk 3 years 45M: first year 14M guaranteed, second year 15M guaranteed and third year 16M team option. I'd offer RoCo the same three year extension.
Well this cannot happen since the max he can get right now is not more than something like 16 on average for a 4 year contract. I think if we offered him a max extension he would jump all over it. Now if we do 50/4 years who knows. Maybe he again breaks his leg and he gets less than 10M next year on a one year deal or whatever as nobody will trust him after another lost year. Even during last contract negotiations people were hyping him up saying he would cost a lot and then he signed for 48 with a lot of unguaranteed money.
If Nurk had a second serious injury this year, he might not make a total of $10m for the rest of his career. I think that could be one incentive to lock up $30-40m.
There’s a lot of variables that going on with Nurk and his extension. From the blazers perspective they may not want to risk resigning an injury prone center who also deal with mental mistakes. But they want want to resign him so they can trade him in case Dame leave to recoup some value. If not, hopefully Nurk break out into a star he’s meant to be under Billups. But from Nurk perspective he may want to prove he is one of the best centers in the league. And he wouldn’t want to be stuck here if Dame took off after the season. He may still want to resign to what he can get before he lose millions of dollars if he get hurt again. RoCo on the other hand we should absolutely resign him. Neil have struggled getting a decent forward so let keep the one that we do have
yeah, i have no idea why i thought he got 4/80 its still average 18 per year, which is more than offers on this forum suggest
my guess is nurk wont sign extension, unless its at least 20 per year, otherwise he will bet on himself of course, im not nurk, nor his agent, so who knows... blazers will try to do whats best for them and nurk & his agent will try to do whats best for nurk
zach collins just got 3/22 (2nd year partially guaranteed, 3rd year non-guaranteed, total 10 mil guaranteed money) hes bigger red flag than nurk when it comes to health and hes not as good as nurk
Personally i don't sign anything with Nurk until i see if he can be coached. Obviously Stotts was accused of not being able to coach him. He obviously fell out of favor in Denver. What happens when Billups has to bench this guy because of his lazy passes and "Going Rogue"? Ever notice Nurk always seems to miss layups? Ever notice Nurk can't dunk the ball? Ever notice Nurk is always injured? No i don't give Nurk another dime until i see he can stay healthy and he can follow directions of a coach. They will know what they have this year by the trade deadline.
He might be a bigger red flag, but I'm guessing that's about what Nurk would be worth after a 2nd major injury. I'm also guessing Nurk could get an extension right now for a lot more than $10m guaranteed, so he would be risking a lot of money by riding out another year. How big is the risk? Who knows, but there certainly is a risk, and you do have to look too far back to see other players who turned down extension offers that probably regret it down. Again, not saying what Nurk should or shouldn't do, but to say there is no incentive for Nurk to look in a big deal, I disagree with.
its not the same situation as with nerlens noel, it was his first contract extension and idiot rejected 4/70 or something nurk already got his first big contract extension (4/48), so he can afford to bet on himself... with his injury history its a risk, but too many things go in his favor right know, so betting on himself would be calculated risk
I wouldn't extend it now. Let him prove that he can stay healthy and is working to improve his game. Sure it's a risk that may make him a lot more expensive but it's a risk to sign him to a big extension and getting what we have been getting.
Three? Wrist and leg, but what's the third? https://www.foxsports.com/nba/jusuf-nurkic-player-injuries
In 2016/2017 season he broke his leg against Houston, thats why he missed the last games of the regular season and 3 games in the Playoffs against Golden State https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2017/3/31/15145444/jusuf-nurkic-injury-status-trail-blazers
That's right, I'd forgotten that one. It certainly wasn't as big of an injury as the others since it only kept him out a few weeks, but still a break.
I seriously doubt that Olshey has any intention of offering Nurk an extension at this point. As I see it, Nurk's future with the Blazers is tied to Dame. If Dame wants out by the deadline or over next summer, then I would think that the Blazers would let Nurk walk after this season.
I love Nurk. But unless he breaks out, has a beast mode year, and develops a "Sky Hook" type signature shot, no way does he come close to 20 per. Only MAX players are gonna get that kind of money going forward. Role guys will cap around 15 per. Powell is a different kind of role player with a higher ceiling.