Seems we also rank dead last in opponents total rebounds per game and 27th in defensive rebound percentage. Would seem a correlation to second chance points in a rather direct way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ripcity/new/ second post down and click on comments. were three last time i checked.
This is a very interesting question. I wish I had the time to go through PBP logs to find out how often HW's blocks result in the Blazers obtaining possession, and the opposition's PPP on blocks that they keep.
but in order to evaluate, you'd need the same data on other rim protectors around the league in order to gauge Whiteside I'd also think that if the rest of the team, other than the shot-blocker, is bad at rebounding, they are likely going to be bad at retrieving blocked shots. And we know the Blazers other than Whiteside are bad at rebounding He has his flaws to be sure, but some of these numbers pose more questions than they answer. Whiteside is not a mobile C; that's clear. Lots of slow-twitch in his DNA like Meyers. But his rebounding and blocked shots numbers are real and have a lot more impact than hollow numbers IMO. all you have to do is look at Portland's opponent FG% at the rim (0-3'), and in the 3-10' zone; compare last season and this season and see that Portland is better this season than they were last season when they had Nurkic, Zach, Kanter, Aminu, and Meyers. Whiteside is pretty much covering that painted area alone, and Portland is better for it. Between last season and this, the Blazers are the same in the 10-16' zone which seems an area that both the bigs and perimeter defenders would work. But they are worse this year in the 16-23' zone and much worse at 3ptFG defense. That fits with the significant downgrade in perimeter defense the roster turnover caused (edited)
How do those numbers stack up with the lack of boxing out and second chance points? And I agree that melo is a large component if the lack of boxing and second chance points posit is real. The fact that during his tenure in Miami that Olynyk a far more perimeter oriented player boxed out more times than Whiteside is at least an interesting situation. I haven’t verified in relation to time on the court so maybe not as telling as I am now presuming. Still LaMarcus nearly doubling Hassan,s box outs in similar minutes...........goes back to the eye test concerning effort I think
Intent of interest in the data. "I think some people here are stretching for things that fits their dislike of Whiteside." My post to which you replied doesn't fit that description at all. I'm simply curious what impact a blocked shot has on actual scoring.
ok, I see, you're focusing on one sentence out of 15. Well then, I'll delete that one sentence: ok then, intent removed leaving the rest of my post....I have "interest in data" too. I'm just saying there that sometimes, context is needed in order for the data to make sense and not present a distorted picture for instance, if the other team scores off of 40% of Whiteside's blocks, that might seem bad and suggest that Whiteside's blocks are overrated. But if the league average for rim protectors is 44%....?
Dude, chill. Why not let someone actually form an opinion on data (that hasn't even been culled) before you start telling them which hypothetical opinions may or may not be valid? Yes, yes, I am new to the internet; thank you for asking.
wut? how did you get the impression I needed to chill? I was simply discussing some of the 'data' that others posted....and hypothetical data that hadn't been posted.
lol...I'm not trying to be difficult, but I'm confused about which term you're referring to..."chill" or "data"...?