NYPost expose on Jody Allen's toxic behavior

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Aha! You just proved that I DID mention LGBTQ+ and trans in a roundabout way.

    I said they hired another STRAIGHT white dude and didn’t give other people a chance to interview. I never said ONLY women and POC. I mentioned them specifically because the NBA is mostly made up of POC but they are under represented in management. I mentioned women specifically because we are finally seeing them break into pro sports. But I never said only those two groups.

    You can try another angle to trap me though. It’s kinda fun to watch.
     
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    thank you Eric
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Oh NO! Look out Thomas.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    When my church's pastor passed away a couple years ago, they engaged in a full search. Contacted the NWCBA, the mission board, the local seminary--any contact we had that might produce a worthy candidate. After all the searching, all the interviews, we ended up hiring our associate pastor, who many thought should have just been handed the job initially.

    It's not the hiring of Cronin that Nate took issue with; it's the hiring process. I think Joe would actually have a lot more support in here if the Blazers had conducted a full search and he had still emerged as the best candidate. As it is, he's basically viewed by many as the beneficiary of corporate nepotism, or perhaps as the henchman promoted after doing the dirty work (stripping down the roster). Thus there will continuously be doubt about him ability to perform the job effectively.
     
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    I posted that no interviews were conducted face to face but their targets were contacted and two refused...the other's I'm not sure why they passed on....as to people projecting corporate nepotism or calling Joe a "henchman" doing dirty work that people will continue to doubt his ability....that's a choice...not a fact...I completely support Joe, found Quick's article saying no search was conducted by citing "two anonymous agents" less convincing than Chris Haynes report that several candidates had been targeted...if you actually read the back and forth, you might not agree with me but at no time did I say they conducted face to face interviews....I said they hired their number one candidate and didn't waste time doing it....there's no argument to be made about it...you either believe the Quick story or Woj rumor or Haynes or the CBS reporting....which said they gauged interest in a list of candidates...other than that ...Eric was right...there was no need to insult me for having an opinion or linking an article that supported that opinion...Quick proved nothing in his article....I'll believe Haynes in this circumstance but not the Quick assumption. For the record, I don't care if people want to frame it to suit their own vitriol against Vulcan and Jody. I don't have that issue nor do I need to have that issue....I think it's fabricated ...This started with me answering a Hoopsguru question with something I read concerning it..it should have ended there but ..you can see what that led to ..I'll never quite understand how people hate the woman who fired Neil Olshey and pine for the guy who hired Neil Olshey....but I won't call those people "anti-woman"
     
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  7. Natebishop3

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    Nowhere in the article (which you didn’t actually link btw) does it say anyone turned anything down. It cited rumors from Haynes and Jake Fischer about possible names that were being considered. Your article doesn’t say anything useful. I linked two articles that specifically state that there wasn’t a search or interview process.

    And this is further supported by the fact that the team never released any information. The coaching search was very public. We knew who interviewed and we knew when. The team was very up front about that. But now magically there’s a secret hiring process that we didn’t hear about?

    If you are okay with them not opening up the job and interviewing other people, you are okay that we didn’t give women, POC, or gay/trans/lgbtq+ or any other living human being a chance at the job.
     
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    A search is not a secret hiring process...it usually entails phoning agents and gauging interest if they aren't interested....it's no secret.. as to the rest...you can feel slighted by the front office if you like.. they didn't waste time and Joe won the job in short order..also not a secret hiring process..just business. I sincerely doubt the job was attractive to many GM candidates given the situation at the time...believe whatever you like... Hiring from within is pretty common in the headhunting business.
     
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    I guess you do you boo.
     
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    I’m looking out for the fellas out there that had to be subjected to this kinky old ladies weird fetishes.

    Had the roles been reversed there would be a huge uproar.
     
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    It does seem questionable when a woman head coaching candidate is a finalist and gets multiple interviews and almost everyone says it was a token process for show. They hire a black man and it's "Olshey was never going to hire anyone else, what a sham."

    But they hire the nice white guy with no real actual search and it's just accepted by some of those same people (not implying anyone here specifically).
     
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    Joe might have had dirt on Jody so instead of taking it to litigation he was handed the keys in kind of a wink wink, hush hush type maneuver.
     
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    The Blazers hired a female director of health and wellness and have had numerous female staff members as well as assistant coach Edniesha Curry who is not only a woman but also black...if you check real GM the Blazers have hired a lot of female staff members and now have a female owner...
    There's a complete list here on Real GM ,..the idea the we're a boy's club franchise is simply not true.
    Portland Trail Blazers Staff & Executives - RealGM
     
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    Well, since this ownership groups sick and twisted behaviors don’t seem to bother anybody else around here, I guess I’ll take my ball and go home on this topic.

    I wouldn’t trust Bert Kolde either. I’ve heard nothing but creep-o behaviors out of him, too. Just a coattail rider.

    I’m ready for a new ownership group. Innovative thinkers.
     
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    So what you’re saying is that there was no excuse to not even open it up for people to interview when they have a track record of hiring women for lower level positions?
     
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    I forget what article it was from (probably the Quick one) but someone quoted a league executive as saying the reason you open up a search is to get some outside perspectives on if other candidates would have a similar plan to Cronin's or if they got some fresh ideas that they could then use to hold Cronin more accountable if his plan isn't proceeding well enough. It's pretty obvious Jody let's the basketball people do their job and doesn't meddle much (outside paying tax), so it's likely by just hiring someone in house without looking at other candidates that she has no clue how to evaluate Cronin's performance (or Olshey's either for that matter). Having a diverse group of candidates would've likely resulted in some interesting approaches that she could ask Cronin about, even if she was going to hire him all along.
     
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    That's a valid point. Why should she get a free pass on behavior that is unacceptable for male bosses. (at least should be unacceptable)
     
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    I'm glad to hear that the thing nobody claimed, suggested, or implied is in fact not true.
     
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    ..glad you're glad to hear it. I certainly don't look at Joe as a guy hired because he's a straight white dude that is keeping POC or women from the job he got...I wouldn't even assume Joe is straight....I don't know. My point is we interviewed a woman for the job...Becky Hammond and have female ownership and female assistant coach etc.....context matters. The Blazers have supported diversity in the sports world.
     
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