Obama: GOP Holding "Gun at the Head of the American People"

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    And I wasn't meaning primaries either.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    its a slippery slope. eventually, they will. this is just the first step.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I don't get why it's defended when someone's party does something unconstitutional; then scream "bloody murder" when the other party does? It happens on both sides of the spectrum and I maybe guilty too. The reality is, the moment you give an inch like this; the moment the government will keep chipping away at your freedom. Then eventually, you will look forward to complete control and say "WTF just happened?!?!"
     
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    oh yes, slippery slope. I love slippery slope arguments.
     
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    well, when this doesn't work, they'll just get stricter and stricter. its not hard to see that as a real possibility.

    they legislate based on statistical outliers.
     
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    for someone that wants to see that possibility, and for someone who wants to believe everything begins a slippery slope, then sure.
     
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    They are usually true... especially when it comes to the government growing in size and power.
     
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    is that so?
     
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    do you not reconize the groth in government and the addition of regulation?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Income tax was enacted with the promise that it would be a 2% tax on only the wealthy. How'd that slipper slope turn out?
     
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    When talking in the context of government spending, growth and power, yes.
     
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    If it did nothing but go up and up, then maybe you have a case. But what was the slippery slope there? Income tax is a slippery slope, soon they'll take all our money!! Where's the slippery slope it went down?
     
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    From the rich only paying 2% to everyone pretty much paying 10% and the rich paying over 1/2 their income in taxes.

    You're only seeing the slippery slope in progress, not the end result.

    A serious problem we have now is that a current congress can enact spending bills that spend in the future, and require future congresses to figure out how to pay for all that along with all the new great stuff government needs to spend money on. You end up with debt ceiling votes turning into major fights.

    All I see is government wanting to spend more than 100% of what the country has to spend. It's never spent more (outside of WW II) than it is now, and it's only going to go up with ObamaCare and other BIG government initiatives that are bound to pass while the voter is asleep at the switch.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/budget.php

    You can see for yourself that tax revenues do nothing but go up, except in years we have a recession. After the recession, the revenues resume their increase again.
     
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    wait until the spending gets past and we can talk about that.
     
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    We are going to see a much more assertive and aggressive Obama in his second term. His first term was so much compromise that he was critized both by the opposing party and within his own party.

    2nd term, he cannot run for re-election, he is going to do the things he believes are best for this country, within the confines of the checks and balace system.

    A gun plan that actually tries to take guns off the street . . . novel. Since I am for gun control, I don't have a problem so far. He avoided the fiscal cliff and rasied the bar on who gets that higher tax, no problem with me.

    Eventually I suspect he will do something that I disagree with, but he is already showing he is going to go about this term differently. I'm excited and nervous to see what he will do in the next 4 years.
     
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    Do you honestly feel that he avoided the fiscal cliff?
     
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    the president is a crooked hypocrite who will do whatever makes his backers the most money

    just like romney would have

    next election dont throw your vote away and vote for who you want to win
     
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    if you don't want any to win, is it ok to throw the ballot in the trash? It's not technically throwing a vote away, but a ballot with no vote.
     
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    Write in somebody?
     
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    well, you could just not vote and not waste the time and gas going down there, plus less trash in the landfill, and more ink for the next guy
     

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