Politics ObamaCare Sicker Shock

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  1. riverman

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    People give up....resign themselves to living a life of endless appetite and entertainment and convenience.....there's even "I can't find the remote" rage these days....I always look at elderly folks on my walks with my wife and think the choices they make are ingrained in their faces....happiness, joy and health take practice and so do depression, anger and addictions to endless consumption....as Lao Tsu said.....be like water....it's that simple
     
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    Sugar is a drug...valium is a drug...first one's free...nowhere is it written that the powers of the world want the population to live a long time. Is it really such a bad thing that people who make really dumb life choices die earlier than others?
     
  3. SlyPokerDog

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    Yes Denny, that food pyramid means you should have 20 servings of only corn syrup a day. And that's what they give children in school.

    You argue the weirdest shit.
     
  4. riverman

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    Healthy people never visit the doctor Denny
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Don't want to pay their medical bills.
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Sure they do. You should have a checkup if you want to catch bad things early.

    So you're thin, nobody is fat.

    The government is wrong on that, too,

    Fuck the science!
     
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    Dead people don't pay bills Denny..but having my neighbors and the general public access to health care is something I value....I was in Taipei during the SARS outbreak and that hasn't happened fortunately here....people forget we breathe the same air...for 8 months I was required by law along with everyone else to wear a facemask in public and have my temperature taken before going to work or into a shop or café....bleach killed SARS in the end...we feel like this stuff will never happen in the US but it will eventually. I was teaching Jr High School at the time and commuted by high speed rail. It was interesting to live in a world where publicly all you saw were people's eyes....sort of like a world of women in burkas
     
  8. Denny Crane

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    You do.

    High fructose corn syrup accounts for half the added sugar in the American diet.

    http://recipes.howstuffworks.com/high-fructose-corn-syrup.htm

    How bad for you is high-fructose corn syrup?
    If you want to cut down drastically the amount of processed food you eat, don't buy anything that has high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) in it. Unfortunately, you'll have to have a strong liking for the taste of lettuce and notebook paper, because HFCS is in nearly everything: jelly, juice, sodas, whole-grain breads, cereals, ketchup, crackers, yogurt, sweet pickles, applesauce, salad dressing, ice cream, cough syrup and lots more.
     
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    I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you posted or how it pertained to the discussion..my bad....I have a heart murmer...my family gets checked up periodically but on a graph or chart....we don't balance out the hypocondriacs of the world..
     
  10. Denny Crane

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    The government is running up the bill.

    No thanks.
     
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    It's not a good system in place as it stands here.....good grief...we agree about something after a rally that was about 50 posts long
     
  12. Denny Crane

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    You keep using anecdotal evidence. My neighbors aren't fat therefore nobody is.

    The science is wrong, they're not surveying me and my friends. Etc.

    A buddy of mine is a college professor. He says that over the years his typical student went from healthy weight to looking fat. How's that?

    Babies are actually being born obese - something that is a new phenomenon.

    I have no interest in the government telling the suckers who don't watch their diet how to kill themselves while jacking up ObamaCare rates and taxes to pay for the damages.
     
  13. Denny Crane

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    It was good before government got involved. Health care was cheap, there was no obesity epidemic.

    I'm not doing the issue justice. It's far more than just obesity. It's a whole range of metabolic disease. Non alcoholic fatty liver disease. Diabetes. Heart disease. And so on.

    As you said, healthy people don't go to the doctor. I win because I don't have to pay the bill.
     
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    Free range chicken, jalapenos, mushrooms, and Frank's Hot Wing sauce.
     
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    I agree! Our schools should serve free range chicken.
     
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    My take....

    The food pyramid is a joke. Processed foods are terrible for you. People eat way to much sugar and sodium due to companies manufacturing goods cheaper, meaning they do not use natural products, all the while the guidelines on the back of the packaging generally say its okay to eat said food. Then add in the "quick dinner" craze where families stopped making elaborate dinners and went towards quicker alternatives which are far less healthy.

    What I do? When possible I buy only natural products. Bread that has all natural ingredients that has higher amounts of fiber in it, meats without added shit in them, lower sodium sauces without HFCS, condiments that are natural (Ketchup, Mayo, Peanut butter, coffee creamer). If I want potato chips or some snack like that, I'll eat Fritos. Why? (Corn, Oil, Salt). Pretty damn simple.

    If I see things on the back that I don't recognize as being natural I shy away from them. I'm not crazy strict about it so obviously some things slide but I am fully aware and do not over indulge in those products.

    Government should only focus on things that make companies put safer, healthier and more natural products on the market, with correct labeling. That's it. Fuck the "pyramid" because its nonsense. This would help overall with the food consumption of the people, mainly the people that are in poor urban environments that can't (go to a farm) or afford current "natural" products.
     
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    You really should skip the bread.

    And beer.
     
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