OT Occupy ICE PDX

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  1. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    Thought some might find this of interest. I have been paying attention to this for the past week or so, and have not seen this on the local news.

     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I still don't understand why they're protesting the actual law enforcement and not the people who pass the laws that the law enforcement enforces. :dunno:
     
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    I don't know anything about this protest but I do know that the cops used NO diplomacy or verbal directives before violently attacking the group....these protesters also had zero training in peaceful demonstration....it escalated quickly and in my view unnecessarily...I'll say that I'd rather see cops with tasers and mace than live rounds though....could'be been much worse...some of the onlookers could have diffused the situation without all the screaming and confrontation...the voice of calm is the way to protest ...cops used to talk to people before shoving them around. Poor showing by all involved
     
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    Cops in this country have gone from "peace officers" to "law enforcement officers" to a para-military army of occupation.
     
  5. DaLincolnJones

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    I dont know, if you go out of your way to make an ass of your self, well, I think you get what you deserve. These ANTIFA/Occupy kids truly have no idea what they are asking for.
     
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    I don't know anything about these kids or who they relate to but cops need to be the adults in the room first off......as I said...these kids have no peaceful demonstration training.....from what I saw the bystanders were escalating things but the cops were way too quick to start throwing people on the ground..completely unnecessary...none of those kids was wielding a weapon from what I saw...there was no threat to the police at all. Bullying sets a bad example for law enforcement
     
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    Protestors in the street, proper action taken. +1 for Portland.
     
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    not really....diplomacy is proper action taken...physical altercation is a last resort....zero Portland
     
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    They weren't in the street either...they were in a driveway
     
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    Pish..you and I are of an age that we remember, if not participated in a protest or ten..

    What the hell? demonstration training? River, come on, you pick on the big boys, you take your lumps.

    Bulling? Here is another recent example of "reasonable liberals" right here in Albany Oregon

     
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    yeah....I was trained in the military to be patient with those lumps until there was no other recourse....peaceful protest was promoted by Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr...etc.....it's easy to find out how to avoid clashing with the police but I didn't see any protester picking on the cops physically..quite the opposite...cops seemed trigger happy which sadly is a trend...when my son went to OSU I drove past the courthouse to his apartment regularly for 4 years straight and everday there was a protest group outside peacefully protesting...never saw any provocations by them...many looked to be senior citizens...they had clipboards and signs..saying fuck you to a cop is not throwing bricks at a cop....I think the issues are separate...I stood guard duty in San Diego at NTC all throughout my duty there....carried a 45....hippies protested everyday about the war and I never had to unholster the gun.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Antifa is quite possibly the single most ironically named organization on the planet.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    My phone is too slow today. Is this the one where the kid calls the black guy the N word?
     
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    I don't know that this group of kids was a member of anything....where does the Antifa association stem from? Honest question....didn't see any Nazi's either...both could've been there but I don't assume that's the case
     
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    Ha, yeah, I spent a decade there. The city counsel has an avowed communist, complete with a Cuban flag on his lap top. The old hippies are some very pleasant people that you will get a chance to run into at the Renaissance fair.

    The ANTIFA/Occupy people on the other hand, make a point of being outrageous. The cops have every right to remove you from their drive way. After they have dealt for days with a presence and they protesters will not vacate the drive, their cops are within their rights to remove you
     
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    Do you really expect to find some Nazis these days?
    I do think there are some Socialist, more than a few, but I don't know about the Nationalist part.
     
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    No, my man. I would try to explain, but you really need to see it to make an opinion.
     
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    I'm not looking for them
     
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    I have to imagine Portland police have to be absolutely spent on all these protesters. Gotta be frustrating.
     
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    They were rather restrained, as it appeared to me.
     
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