October and Now - How did/do you feel?

If what I said was equivalent to plucking someone's eyes out, then apparently I overstepped my authority.

I intervened, not because Transplant needs my help. He can handle himself, better than I can from what I can tell.

I spoke up to moderate. Take it for what it's worth.

And in my view, the tone of the discussion became "uninviting" for newcomers. In my view, it gives the impression that in order to participate in discussions here, be prepared to submit to the top dogs.

It's not like this doesn't happen on other boards. It's happened at every board I've participated on. But it doesn't mean I have to like it. In fact, I think it sucks. There is a way to have discussions that doesn't end up with someone saying "uncle."

And if it's just me and my perception, then you can tell me to f off. Actually, you did But maybe, I'm not the only one who is looking for a place to have a good time talking about the Bulls, and basketball in general, and not necessarily out to prove that I'm the best, most intelligent and perceptive poster on the internets. And maybe, if we just try a little bit, we can make this board that kind of place. A place that appreciates quality, but has room for quantity.

 

Well, your perception is important, and I don't want you to f off. I like you and I have great respect for you and your opinions on things. Always have. That's a big part of why I'm a little bit ticked at the place you're taking this conversation to. Peoples' perceptions of things are their realities, and clearly you've got a problem with me that I don't have with you.
It bothers me because if my posting... to a third party who doesn't seem to have a problem with it... is a problem for you, then yeah, I'm sure it's a problem for other people too. Worse, it's a problem without a solution, except for me to shut up and go away.

Because your perceptions, as best I can tell, are completely immune to facts. Who's asking for "submission to the top dogs" here?

It's not me. In all the time we've run this place, not a single person has been banned, asked to or encouraged to leave because of their opinions. Not a single person has, in any way, been asked to kiss any rings. I actually hate the thought of it.

The person I actually see asking for submission here is you. You are seeking the submission, the agreement to not talk about certain things, to submit to not voicing an opinion, on a freaking internet message board. You might be using language that suggests the opposite, but you, sir, are the one preaching intolerance and submission.

There is a way to have discussions that don't end up with someone saying uncle! You admit your disagreements but at the end of the day walk away from it still respecting and liking the person you disagree with. It's just like my point earlier about basketball. When the game is over, a good sport realizes that it really is just a game, and the whole point is to better yourself through the process of competition and struggle. While you struggle, compete, and disagree with your opponents, you're better off for it, and if you don't recognize that, respect their role in it, or their own struggle to come to terms with things, it's a pretty much pointless endeavor.

I don't even view discussing things here as a competition. That metaphor only goes so far. But I do like to be informed, and I like to hear other opinions. I think it's valuable as a thing in itself. That being said, if I were trying to be the most intelligent of anything, this is not where I would be. The most intelligent, perceptive message board poster is like saying you're the tallest midget. It's not my goal, nor should it be anyone else's. Nor should trying to win arguments for the sake of arguments, because, really, I can't think of any time that doing so has ever actually changed anyone's opinion.

For my part, I value your and other folks opinions even though, and sometimes because I don't share them. I'm sorry that isn't a two way street, especially because I think there's very little that's more uninviting to folks than reading complaints about other peoples' opinions.

 

There's a reason why there are only a few regular posters on this board and it mostly has to do with the resounding negative attitude toward the bulls by most of those regular posters. It would absolutely crush Denny's soul to admit the bulls made the right personnel choices and are very much headed in the right direction. So he shits on any sentiment that would reflect well on this bulls team. MikeDC, the negative perception of you is due to the fact that for some reason you always seem to be on the same side of the argument as Denny even though you generally make a much more cogent and plausible argument. That and the fact that since the same people are generally posting things tend to get hot quickly, generally right after Denny says something ludicrous like "BG would be the second best player on this bulls team."

 

Beating the Spurs ass was certainly pretty impressive. Man, we used to really stink in games like this, and we just came out and whipped em.

 

Yeah, I feel pretty damn good about our team compared to October after last nights game. There's now a league wide perception that Derrick Rose is a superstar. Not just among the talking heads, but I also sense it's true among the league's players as well.

I think we've played everyone in the league now, and the opposition knows they're going to send three guys at Derrick all night......and we're still winning. Superstar, indeed.

 

I feel good. I guess my prediction of 54 wins is going to be a bit low, if this keeps up. Wild, what this kid is doing, and what Thibs is doing for him and the team.

 

I think this team can beat anyone . They are exceptionally tough minded and they are a true team.

I honestly don't think Anthony Parker or Courtney Lee doesn't do that much more for us ....Courtney Lee marginally I guess but he's not the missing piece.

The only team in the East I don't feel confident against is the Heat.

 

How does our last 28 games in the schedule compare to the Heat , Celtics and Magic ?

 

I would probably guess the playoff match ups will be :

Heat v Bobcats - HEAT

Celtics v Sixers - CELTICS

Bulls v Knicks- BULLS

Magic v Hawks -MAGIC

This puts us head to head with the Celtcis in the 2nd round who we take and Heat in the Conference Finals where we lose

 

Not that far away from where we are now. I called this a 55 win team at start of season and 4th seed , and now,I have revised to 58 wins and 3rd seed.

Of course at season start we couldn't foresee the Boozer and Noah situations.

But I did predict that Kurt Thomas would become more important to this team which everyome scoffed at when they were cracking their Taj chubs......

 

K4E, I'm lovin' what I'm hearing from you, and agree with almost all of it.

But I think that people are giving Miami too much credit. It's like everyone is going to trip over themselves to join Miami, while we'll be left out to dry.

For one thing, if that does happen, it will stoke DRose's fire in a way that nothing else would. I mean, he is like the perfect teammate to play with. He likes to distribute the ball. He opens up the court for others. He's committed to winning. If people go join LeBron and Wade, it's just the Bosh syndrome of wanting to be on TV and receive a lot of glory, instead of really wanting to win. Rose knows these things. He'll take it upon himself to prove those sycophants wrong.

And I don't think the rest of the NBA is as blind as Melo and LeBron are. They know what it's like to play with jerks who are full of themselves, and what it's like to play for a team that works well together. Rose doesn't have ESPN on board, yet. But people have eyes. They can see. I think Rose is going to be a great attraction for more and more players in the league. Everybody knows, even now, that LeBron was a fool for not joining the Bulls. Wade, you can excuse. But LeBron?

I'm just not shaking over Miami, now or in the future.