Oden expectations thread

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  1. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

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    how much better would conley jr make Oden? Do we hope Memphis gets the 2nd pick so they have more incentive to trade Conley?
     
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    That's weird, I think 18 and 10 is the much better option. That's many more pts in the paint/fouls on the other team and 10 rebounds is more than fine, especially when you consider the Blazers are already a very good rebounding team anyways.
     
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    The fact of the matter is... if Oden doesn't start averaging a double double soon, regardless of the excuses, he will be considered a bust. Period. The guy was supposed to be a once-in-his-generation center. #1 pick. Look at the great centers and what they averaged their rookie season. Yes, Oden had surgery (not his fault) and foul trouble (completely his fault), but starting this season, the excuses have to stop. He has to produce. Or at least look active on both sides of the court every single night.
     
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    We need Oden to rebound and play defense. We need 12 rebounds and 3 blocks out of him every night. Throw in 10-12 points of easy baskets inside and I'm happy. That's not once-in-his-generation numbers but it's all this team needs to win a championship.
     
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    18&10..we are already a great rebounding team, and we desperately need a 3rd scorer in the lineup..if Greg is getting 18, then that is leaving things wide open for everyone else.
     
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    10 rebounds is still very good. This team is already a good rebounding team. It doesn't a big improvement there.

    It does however need more scoring in the paint, and Oden would provide a lot more of that with 18pts and game rather than 10pts a game.
     
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    10 rebounds would be great, no doubt. I don't expect him to average 16 rebounds. But if given a choice, I'd take it. Would make him the best rebounder since Rodman. Rodman won championships.
     
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    I challenge you to assess a player without mentioning raw stats.
     
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    I honestly have no idea. He won't have the rookie, or coming off an injury excuse anymore. He's gotta step up to the plate! Lots of other young players stepped up right away. Players that think they're going to develop slowly like fine wine usually do not.

    I agree with Nate that this is a huge off season for Greg. He's gotta pick up some skill!
     
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    I find your choice to be weird.
     
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    Well, sure. At times this season, he wasn't even active on either side of the court. In his rookie year, if I could've seen him actively making a difference on either side of the court, I would have been happy. But so often, he did nothing. It's not all about stats. Sometimes, people threw per minute stats at me and it meant nothing to me. Didn't at all reflect how active he was actually being on the court while he was out there. KG, while he didn't have great you know what his rookie year, he showed flashes of dominance in the second half of his rookie season. I was in Minnesota then and went to many of the games. You could see that he was going to be good. And it wasn't specifically about scoring or rebounding. But NOW, in Oden's SECOND year, he has to do more than just be active. He has to produce.

    I challenge you back. Your turn.
     
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    Amen. Not to mention the fact that having a single dominant rebounder, as opposed to multiple good rebounders, makes it easier to get out and run. This teams will never be the Suns, but even a handful of easy buckets a game would be nice. Given that LMA is one of the fastest PFs in the league, the ability to get him out on the break could create some nasty mismatches.
     
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    Until the NBA stops keeping score and awards victories based on style points, you aren't going to get your wish.
     
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    What are you going to challenge me to do? I don't just mention raw stats when evaluating players. It's just something that I've noticed you do a lot, no offense.
     

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