<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 24 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Blazers have Darius Miles, Travis Outlaw and Martell Webster at SF. Zach Randolph is being actively shopped, it's looking more likely that he could be moved. Jamaal Magloire is a FA that's leaving. If the Blazers are stuck with Randolph next year, nothing wrong with having a little depth and being able to being in LaMarcus Aldridge of the bench, it's very likely the Blazers will have an injury to one of those 4, having depth in the paint is a great luxury. Zach Randolph in Portland is only temporary.</div>So your saying instead of adding the best SF Since Lebron James to their weakest spot which is SF, they should draft Oden so they can have a deeper bench?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dont put words in my mouth and I wont say it. Your acting like im saying ''ODEN IS A TERRIBLE PLAYER AND CANT DEFEND ANYONE'' When if you actually read what I said I said nothing along those lines.Even Rebounding,blocking and passing he has an advantage at and hes not even a big man. When you are better in every statistically category I think stats are relevant. Oden isnt that much better defensively than Durant either BTW.</div>You don't know much about basketball, do you? Durant is a project defensively. He is in no way on Oden's level, not even close. Durant doesn't have an advantage rebounding, blocking and passing.The reason he got so many rebounds was because he was guarded by SF's and they rarely ever go into the paint to rebound. I'm not going to take that skill away from Durant to prove a point to somebody being ignorant though.Stats aren't relevent at all.If Durant was on a team with a lot of veterans rather than a team w/ith a bunch of "scrubs" like you said then would he have been the go to guy on offense? People didn't even get that Durant was going to be able to dominate offensively like that. He was in the middle of lotterys of mocks all over the internet. He just kind of came in to a situation and grabbed the oppurtunity and just dominated, proving everybody wrong.Oden is a better shot blocker, a better rebounder, better at getting position and blocking out his man and they're kind of even passing and Durant is a better scorer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dont put words in my mouth and I wont say it. Your acting like im saying ''ODEN IS A TERRIBLE PLAYER AND CANT DEFEND ANYONE'' When if you actually read what I said I said nothing along those lines.Even Rebounding,blocking and passing he has an advantage at and hes not even a big man. When you are better in every statistically category I think stats are relevant. Oden isnt that much better defensively than Durant either BTW.</div>He isn't a better rebounder, defender, shot blocker, and I sure hope Durant's a better passer considering he's a wing player. Durant was ALWAYS the biggest guy on the floor while he was with Texas and thats why he got so many rebounds, those stats will not translate to the NBA. Oden is clearly the better shot blocker, sometimes teams would never bring it in the paint because they were intimidated by Oden so he didn't get as many blocked shots.. He does so much more than what stats show..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jun 24 2007, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Durant was the tallest guy on the floor at all times, and he was just the best rebounder on that Texas team. Those rebounding stats won't translate that well to the NBA.</div>Why wouldnt they translate well to the NBA? Durant is 6'9 nearly. I see him at least being a 8-10 career rebounder. And Durant was not the tallest guy on the floor at all times in college. What are you talking about?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So your saying instead of adding the best SF Since Lebron James to their weakest spot which is SF, they should draft Oden so they can have a deeper bench? </div> They don't a SF anymore than they need a PF/C.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jun 24 2007, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He isn't a better rebounder, defender, shot blocker, and I sure hope Durant's a better passer considering he's a wing player. Durant was ALWAYS the biggest guy on the floor while he was with Texas and thats why he got so many rebounds, those stats will not translate to the NBA. Oden is clearly the better shot blocker, sometimes teams would never bring it in the paint because they were intimidated by Oden so he didn't get as many blocked shots.. He does so much more than what stats show..</div>Durant was not always the biggest player on the court when he was playing for Texas but Oden was always the biggest player on the court when he was playing for OSU but Durant still got more rebounds. You should know by now height has nothing to do with rebounds anyway. Dwight Howard out-rebounds Yao Ming who has half a foot over him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why wouldnt they translate well to the NBA? Durant is 6'9 nearly. I see him at least being a 8-10 career rebounder. And Durant was not the tallest guy on the floor at all times in college. What are you talking about?</div> Kevin Durant measured 6'10", yet another thing you probably didn't know. He also played PF/C 90% of the time at Texas because they had a small team, Durant's not going to rebound as much because he will be playing SF much more in the NBA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 24 2007, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They don't a SF anymore than they need a PF/C.</div>What? You'd rather Have Darius Miles start than Lemarcus Aldridge and Zach Randolph?
For whoever thinks the Blazers should pick Oden, I have a question. Which team since Jordan has won a title without a dominant big man downlow? If you have the chance to grab a player who is hyped up to be the next best big man, you don't pass on him. Passing on him is like passing on a couple NBA titles. Though SF may be the Blazers' weakest spot, they still have some young players with potential there in Webster and Outlaw. Ime Udoka didn't do half bad last year either. It's the smart move for the Blazers to pick Oden.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 24 2007, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kevin Durant measured 6'10", yet another thing you probably didn't know. He also played PF/C 90% of the time at Texas because they had a small team, Durant's not going to rebound as much because he will be playing SF much more in the NBA.</div>SF is still a forward and forwards play closer to the basket. He will be a great rebounder regardless and the fact that he played PC/C only speaks further his versatility.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why wouldnt they translate well to the NBA? Durant is 6'9 nearly. I see him at least being a 8-10 career rebounder. And Durant was not the tallest guy on the floor at all times in college. What are you talking about?</div>Because he'll get banged around by guys like ODEN. At SF he isn't needed to rebound as much, thats not his job. I meant to say he was the tallest player on the floor at all times for Texas, which is 100% true.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What? You'd rather Have Darius Miles start than Lemarcus Aldridge and Zach Randolph? </div> It's spelled LaMarcus, not Lemarcus. For me, I'd much rather have 3 average SF's than pass up on a franchise center. Next year Zach Randolph won't be in Portland, and Aldridge/Oden would be a duo. The Blazers can easily plug in a SF, they don't need a star SF with Roy/Aldridge being the star offensive players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>SF is still a forward and forwards play closer to the basket. He will be a great rebounder regardless and the fact that he played PC/C only speaks further his versatility.</div>There is no way he will be able to play PF/C in the NBA with his size and strength. He would get beat up downlow.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 24 2007, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For whoever thinks the Blazers should pick Oden, I have a question. Which team since Jordan has won a title without a dominant big man downlow? If you have the chance to grab a player who is hyped up to be the next best big man, you don't pass on him. Passing on him is like passing on a couple NBA titles. Though SF may be the Blazers' weakest spot, they still have some young players with potential there in Webster and Outlaw. Ime Udoka didn't do half bad last year either. It's the smart move for the Blazers to pick Oden.</div>The Blazers already have strong big men downlow though. At lot stronger frontcourt than Most NBA teams who have won titles. And you asked which team won without a center leading the way and I have previously mentioned the07 Spurs06 Heat05 Spurs04 PistonsAll teams that have won titles have had great teams. Not just strong frontcourts. Of course you need a strong frontcourt to win a title also, but you need 5 good players not only a PF-C. Im getting tired of repeating myself. Big men doesn't always gurantee titles, there are plenty of great big men who never win titles and plenty of great wingmen who do win titles.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 24 2007, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is no way he will be able to play PF/C in the NBA with his size and strength. He would get beat up downlow.</div>When did I say he would be a PF/C in the NBA?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 24 2007, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is no way he will be able to play PF/C in the NBA with his size and strength. He would get beat up downlow.</div> Kevin Durant can play PF in the NBA, he's just more effective at SF. But he can play PF, there are lots of skinny PF's in the NBA that make by on quickness/smarts rather than muscle.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Blazers already have strong big men downlow though. At lot stronger frontcourt than Most NBA teams who have won titles. And you asked which team won without a center leading the way and I have previously mentioned the07 Spurs06 Heat05 Spurs05 Pistons</div>What do you not understand? Zach Randolph will not be a Blazer next season. Aldridge, Pryzbilla, Schenscher is pretty weak bud.. And all those NBA Champions had dominant post players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 24 2007, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's spelled LaMarcus, not Lemarcus. For me, I'd much rather have 3 average SF's than pass up on a franchise center. Next year Zach Randolph won't be in Portland, and Aldridge/Oden would be a duo. The Blazers can easily plug in a SF, they don't need a star SF with Roy/Aldridge being the star offensive players.</div>Portland hasnt announced that they wont keep Zach Randolph, everything that has said he is leaving is rumors.Portland already has a strong frontcourt, I could understand if they were weak in their frontcourt picking Oden but they arent. That is Portlands only strong point right now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 24 2007, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kevin Durant can play PF in the NBA, he's just more effective at SF. But he can play PF, there are lots of skinny PF's in the NBA that make by on quickness/smarts rather than muscle.</div>He won't be able to play it as effectively has he did in the college though. I feel in the NBA he will be even more of a jump shooter than he was in college. He will get downlow some, but not as much. Most of his dunks and layups will be on fastbreaks. And, if he does play PF in the NBA, he will have to use a lot of finnese, because he won't be able to body up defenders that well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 24 2007, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Portland hasnt announced that they wont keep Zach Randolph, everything that has said he is leaving is rumors.Portland already has a strong frontcourt, I could understand if they were weak in their frontcourt picking Oden but they arent. That is Portlands only strong point right now.</div> What team has announced that they won't keep a certain player this offseason? Nobody has. Portland is picking Greg Oden, the rumors of Zach Randolph leaving are not random rumors, the team wants to build around Oden and Aldridge, Randolph leaving is inevitable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jun 24 2007, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What do you not understand? Zach Randolph will not be a Blazer next season. Aldridge, Pryzbilla, Schenscher is pretty weak bud.. And all those NBA Champions had dominant post players.</div>Zach Randolph may end up on the Blazers still, you dont know what will happen. Sure there are plenty of rumors but rumors are rumors. Even with Randolph gone, Pryzbilla is an above average starting center and Aldridge is a great PF and that duo alone would be better then half the frontcourts in the NBA.Of all those teams listed their starting Centers highest average was 18 ppg(shaq) and the rest averaged under 10. If we're including PF then Durant is a SF-PF anyway so by your logic he has just as much a chance to win a title based on his position, plus the fact that he is an all-around better basketball player.
