Official 2013 Draft thread

That's pretty interesting

stat geek guy being put to work

 

Somebody give that list!!!

 

SECOND-ROUND STEALS

1. ANDRE ROBERSON, SF, COLORADO
Roberson's Projections | Age: 21
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.497
2.6
39
Roberson's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

Roberson fits a second-round stereotype -- an undersized power forward with big-time athleticism. He struggled last season trying to play more on the perimeter, but has excelled defensively and on the glass against bigger players. Consider Roberson a poor man's Kenneth Faried.


2. D.J. COOPER, PG, OHIO
Cooper's Projections | Age: 22
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.504
2.3
59
Cooper's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

Cooper, who led Ohio to the Sweet 16 in 2012, has the best translated assist rate in the draft and also racked up steals in the MAC. Scouts are probably rightfully concerned about Cooper's inability to finish -- his translated 2-point percentage is below 40 percent.


3. NATE WOLTERS, PG, SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
Wolters' Projections | Age: 22
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.492
2.2
36
Wolters' draft profile | Top 100 prospects

A crafty ball handler with good size for the point, Wolters rarely turns the ball over and excelled at setting up shooters in a spread offense. Along with Bennett, Wolters is the other prospect without any statistical weaknesses for his position. His translations suggest he could be an effective backup next season.


4. PIERRE JACKSON, PG, BAYLOR
Jackson's Projections | Age: 21
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.482
2.1
35
Jackson's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

Jackson was the primary creator at Baylor last season, posting an above-average translated usage rate as well as an elite steal rate. He's also a dangerous outside shooter who could serve as instant offense from the bench a la the smaller Earl Boykins.


5. ARSALAN KAZEMI, PF, OREGON
Kazemi's Projections | Age: 23
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.510
2.1
56
Kazemi's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

After excelling at Rice, Kazemi demonstrated last season he could do the same thing against better competition at Oregon. He's an outstanding rebounder who uses his quickness to come up with steals against bigger opponents.


6. RYAN BROEKHOFF, SF, VALPARAISO
Broekoff's Projections | Age: 22
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.497
2.0
74
Broekhoff's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

A deep sleeper who only recently appeared on Ford's top 100, Broekhoff was a versatile contributor for the Horizon League champs. He has 3-point range and is a good passer for a wing, but scouts will question his level of competition.


7. KHALIF WYATT, SG, TEMPLE
Wyatt's Projections | Age: 22
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.474
1.6
78
Wyatt's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

Wyatt's awkward game hasn't won many fans among NBA scouts, but his translations suggest he'll be a capable scorer with the ability to create offense for his teammates as a shooting guard.


8. MIKE MUSCALA, C, BUCKNELL
Muscala's Projections | Age: 21
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.460
1.5
33
Muscala's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

Muscala's combination of size and shooting touch could make him an effective pick-and-pop big man.


9. MARKO TODOROVIC, PF, SERBIA
Todorovic's Projections | Age: 21
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.442
1.5
63
Todorovic's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

Todorovic more than held his own in the Euroleague last season and should be a high-percentage shooter with the ability to step out beyond the 3-point line at times.


10. GRANT JERRETT, PF, ARIZONA
Jerrett's Projections | Age: 19
WIN %
WARP
FORD'S RANK
.415
1.5
38
Jerrett's draft profile | Top 100 prospects

Though Jerrett unexpectedly entered the draft after a disappointing freshman season, his translations show promise. In particular, they assume he has to be a more accurate 2-point shooter than his performance at Arizona (41.3 percent on 75 attempts) indicated. If so, Jerrett could prove a stretch four (he shot 40.5 percent on 3s) with uncommon athleticism for the position.

 

Thanks RR7! Yes please to Roberson and/or Kazemi. (Muscala and Wolters will be gone before we pick in the second round.) Cooper is interesting. I wonder if he'll go undrafted.

 

Wolters sounds perfect if we don't want to monkey around with trying to sign Maynor after major moves are completed.

 

Yes, they are making a lot of changes. However, I wouldn't say they're going to drop a whole lot in our division until I see their roster after the draft and FA.

 

Huge long podcast featuring Kevin Pelton and Chad Ford.

Pelton: had Rondo as a top 10 pick back then. But also rated Mike Sweetney.

Says Noel is underrated, Len is overrated, in part because steal rate is suprisingly important, and Noel's is great, Len's is awful. Len's comp is... Meyers Leonard!

Shabazz Muhammad is "the single worst prospect rated as a first rounder" and has "by far the worst defensive rating of any player in the draft". Mclemore, Hardaway Jr., Burke have poor defensive ratings.

McCollum rates as one of the top prospects. Pelton likes Nogueira better than Olynyk or Gobert.

Olynyk rates worse than Ryan Anderson. "At 23 he's a good value."

"Shane Larkin is a solid value" at 21. The name "Chris Paul" is bandied about!

Doesn't know what to do with Schroeder because "there are no meaningful numbers". Same with Gobert. But I seem to remember him trashing Batum ahead of time.

Likes DJ Cooper - within reason - "a souped-up version of Ish Smith".

Doesn't like Oladipo (as a high pick)- compares him with Tony Allen or Iguodala tops.

17 of the top 33 players according to Pelton's scheme are "projected second round picks" (presumably by other people).

Loves Andre Roberson (me too!).

Likes Cody Zeller a LOT - a bargain "outside the top 10".
"Biggest Steal" - Roberson.

Top 5 guys:
Noel, Porter, Caldwell-Pope, Zeller, McCollum.

Chad Ford:
Trey Burke or MCW could disrupt the top 6 (Phoenix likes MCW a lot, probably more than McLemore).
The pick that the draft is hinging on is... the Cavs'. Because they haven't decided yet.
If Cavs take Len, Ford thinks he knows that Magic take Noel.
Surest pick: Porter at 3, except Washington's looking at trading the pick.
(Ford keeps calling Kidd-Gilchrist Carter-Williams - telling a story about how even his agent didn't know the Bobcats would take him.)
Ford thinks 14 and 21 gets you to 10 (doesn't mention the name Portland, but definitely mentions the number 10), maybe even 7, because Sacto likes Hardaway and Snell.
Ford: "There's one player in this draft I love and that's Victor Oladipo.... At the very least he's a better version of Tony Allen."

He thinks Muhammad could fall past Boston at 16!

 

I've been getting comfortable with taking Zeller if he's still available at 10. It's a safe pick that probably works well in the short-term and long-term with a 3-big lineup along with LMA and Leonard. Zeller might be the only guy in the draft without a major "but..." dangling after his name with every mention! His only negative is he's not considered as good as a year ago, but that's not our problem with where we're picking.

 

I thought his negatives were below average rebounding and defense? (That and his short arms)

 

Brendan Bowers @BowersCLE 2 minutes ago
According to Chad Ford, OKC, MIN & POR "have been the most proactive in trying to get the No. 1 pick" espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/… #Cavs

 

Umm...what's wrong with that? With Lillard's weak defense, I'd take a Allen or Iggy to play next to him.

 

If that is true, then wouldn't it have to be Aldridge? Unless they can talk them into #10 and Leonard--which wouldn't be a terrible trade in this draft.

 

I wouldn't think it'd be Aldridge, otherwise, Cleveland would have jumped at it.

 

I would consider those areas to be drawbacks more than negatives, but that's splitting hairs. He's at least skilled and ready to play alongside LMA while Leonard develops further.

It's not good value that high in the draft, though. Draft someone younger with potential and sign one of those guys as a free agent.

 

A list of 61 mock draft sites and their POR pick:

http://www.iamatrailblazersfan.com/ArticleDisplay/tabid/120/ItemID/3814/Default.aspx

A lot of McCollum and some Pope but the consensus seems to be Zeller (which I have to admit surprises me a bit).

 

If the Blazers landed the #1 pick and drafted Noel or Len Olshey should be fired.

 

If it involved moving Batum out for Otto Porter.... now we're talking.

 

Has anyone posted about this guy Nick Minnerath yet? I saw him on a lot of team's workout lists, so I googled him, and he's got a really interesting backstory.

I've never seen him play, but from the story, I can see why teams are bringing him in for a look.

Interesting read -

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2013/06/2013_nba_draft_rumors_nick_min.html

6'9", athletic, can shoot, has potential (or lacks experience, if you want to look at that way), and he looks like Macklemore and Birdman had a kid, so if nothing else, he's got that going for him -



Probably undrafted, but still an interesting story to follow, even if in the D-League...

 

Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft 4m
Cavs asking price for the 1st pick is at least a lottery pick, future 1st, and a prospect. #NBADraft

Sounds like a lot for a draft without an obvious potential super star

 

#10, Leonard and the Greek

Lottery pick
a prospectish
and a potential lottery talent