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  1. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I said a good SG would help us dominate the league. I don't think any team with LMA as the/a main piece will ever dominate the league.

    I believe I said that in comparison to the SG position there's a huge amount of C talent. And that's not false.
    SG Talent: Harden (Wade..............Mayo, Matthews, Klay, Martin, Ellis, DeRozen)
    C Talent: Howard, Hibbert, Gasol, Noah, Lopez (Horford, Vucevic, Cousins, Monroe, Sanders, Asik, Drummond.........Gortat, Jordan, McGee)

    Also, because I don't believe that any team built around LMA will be taken seriously I'm coming at this from a position of asset acquisition. Typically great SGs dominate the league (when surrounded by the proper team), so that'd be a very strong asset to hold. Even though I included 3 Cs on my short list (so clearly I agree with you about needing a C), I think they have much higher bust potential than Shabazz, so to me it's more likely that Shabazz will be the most valuable asset three years from now.
     
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    Well I can't dispute that a back Up PG is important. I guess I don't prioritize the position because
    Damian will dominate the minutes and I think Maynor is pretty good for that role.

    Frustrating that neither Dieng nor Shabazz has worked out for the Blazers in Portland.
     
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    I was assuming Maynor was gone to clear up cap space. And I think Lillard actually needs to play less, given that he led the NBA in minutes...

    Yeah. I don't know how to read that. Lillard worked out for us last year, but did Leonard? And Olshey said they were targeting Barton all along - did he work out for us?
     
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    This would be a double buzzkill:

    In their rough draft they have Dieng falling to 27! Either I've made a huge mistake about him or that's stupid.
     
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  6. BrianFromWA

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    WAS seems to want to clear cap space and is offering up #3 for it. They also seem to be talking with MIL building around a #3-for-Ilyasova trade.

    Just mixing rumors here--taking, say, Nene and #3 for our cap space, sending LMA out on the rumored CLE deal, and Papanikolou + 2nds for #13...

    turns out to be LMA, Papanikolou, 2 2nds and cap space for:
    Nene, Thompson, #1 (Noel or Len), #3 (Oladipo or McLemore), #13, #19 (maybe, or a future first from CLE)

    -Leaving us with a starting lineup of:
    Lillard/(Oladipo or McLemore)/Batum/Thompson/Nene

    -a returning bench of Wes, Leonard, Freeland, Claver

    #10 and #13 for BPA (I'm thinking "stretch 4 and b/u wing"--something like Zeller/Shabazz or McCollum/Olynyk--or, going way out there, Schroeder/Greek Batum)

    a stash at 19, or a hot riser (Schroeder/Greek Batum/Ricky Ledo/Allen Crabbe/Tony Mitchell)

    And you'd still have Len or Noel coming back at some point later in the season.

    To me, they may not be great next year, but I like that team a lot better in the next 2-6 years than trading #10 for Gortat or something.
     
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    I would be happy with stopping at Nene/Okafor and #3 for cap space.

    You could add Nene/Okafor, Olipado and Adams or Nene/Okafor, Len and Pope.

    Either one of those combinations would add a lot of depth and defensive help to the team. The best part is you would get immediate center help for LMA, and still get some young talent to build with. I don't believe it would happen though.
     
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  8. Fez Hammersticks

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    I like that. Though I would prefer that we keep Kostas and send out a future 2nd rounder.

    It'd firmly put this team on the Wiggens tank train.
     
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    Fair enough. My opinion that LMA is leaving regardless in 2 years is well-known, but if this was all that happened this offseason (and I'd probably go with the Oladipo-or-McLemore at 3, Stretch 4 or b/u C at 10 plan) I could live with it.
     
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    I get the firm impression that GMs round the league think this draft sucks balls.
     
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    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
    ESPN reported in April that Rockets, widely seen as leaders in Dwight Howard chase, planned to shed Robinson so they can offer Dwight

    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 55s
    Rockets, I'm told, have eyes on fistful of international players they'd draft with a first for Robinson to keep overseas and avoid cap hit
     
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    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 15m
    Some draft scuttle: Rockets have been offered chance to shed contract of PF Thomas Robinson for first-round pick in next Thursday's draft
     
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    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 5m
    I'm no @chadfordinsider, so hope I'm getting these names right. Players on Rockets' radar: Adetokunbo, Gobert, Karasev, Nogueira, Schroeder
     
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    I'd take that. Robinson and a first for cap space? He could look nice coming off the bench. I doubt that is what is really being offered though.
     
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    You're mis-reading: a first for Robinson. Then the Rockets draft a stash player so they clear cap space for this year. I would NOT give up #10 for Robinson.
     
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    Nor would anyone else. Maybe a late first rounder.
     
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  17. KeepOnRollin

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    Someone will still think he can live up to being the 5th pick in a (stronger) NBA draft. I wouldn't give up #10 for him at this point but I bet someone would be ok with giving up #17 on down.
     
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  18. Wizard Mentor

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    anyone know who Chad Ford put in his 1st Tier?
     
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    It was discussed in another thread but no one from this draft Made 1st tier and no one made 2nd tier either.
     
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    remember, though, that Ford does his tiers based on the consensus he gets from GMs---not necessarily his personal feelings.
    I've heard several people (Kevin Pelton, for one) who puts a few of Ford's "Tier Three" guys into Tier Two.
     
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