[ official ] 2016 summer moves

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  1. Tunchi

    Tunchi Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't even pay 15-20M for him. Now around 9-10M we can talk...
     
  2. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    If it comes down to DeRozan for $25MM/year or Batum & Biyombo for that combined, that's something worth considering.

    I'm not a big fan of paying DD $180MM/6 years or whatever he is demanding.
     
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  3. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    That reminds me, could someone compile a list of agents Neil has does good business with before?
     
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    That's not even an option under this CBA.

    Also, Batum and DeRozan are both going to be making max money. The real question is Batum or DeRozan better for your team.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    This talk of Noah gets me thinking of Marc Gasol as well. He's 31, but doesn't have the NBA mileage of a conventional 31 year old. On a pretty low max contract for 4 more seasons.

    He's an absolute perfect fit @ C for us skill wise.
     
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  6. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Of course I looked at them, but chose not to comment on them, because they don't tell me nearly as much as you think they do. You cherry picked one obscure stat (Defensive 3FG%) to "prove" your point that Aminu is a better perimeter defender than Millsap (if you look at DFG% > 15 ft, the stat swings in Millsap's favor, big deal, it's only one stat). Sorry, but there's a LOT more to perimeter defense than that one simplistic stat. How well do the two players defend the pick and roll? If they defend it well, there won't even be a FG attempt. How well do they run their man off the 3-point line? Again, if they do it will, it won't even result in a shot attempt.

    You seem to be taking this very personal, with a lot of foul language and personal attacks. Look at ALL the stats and the opinions of coaches and other players. Millsap is widely regarded as one of the best defenders in the entire league. Aminu is not.

    Again, Millsap is a pipe dream, and if we did add him, I'd also love to keep Chief. Adding one of the top defenders in the league can only help this team get better. That should be the goal. And, if Chief is so much better, let him beat out Millsap for the starting roll. Or better yet, if that ever happens, do like I said and start Millsap at the 4 and Chief at the 3. That puts them both playing their best position and gives us two good defenders in the starting line up. Of course, that is all hypothetical as I think we have less than a 1% chance of actually getting Millsap.

    BNM
     
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  7. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Marcus.

    Smart.

    As the playoffs are showing you - defense is magnified 10000x's as you get closer to the finals. Smart can legitimately check PG/SG/SF's.

    The availability of Smart depends on their draft. But they could also (fuck up Fez's plan...) package this pick with Smart (among others) ....for DMC or another veteran star.
     
  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    http://www.csnphilly.com/the700leve...od-sixers-trade-jahlil-okafor-or-nerlens-noel

    Chad Ford:
    I kinda wanna explore options for Saric tbh.

     
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    How is his D? He looks like most Euros....fundamentally sound....but there were of course no highlights of him on defense.
     
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    No idea. Draft sites say his lateral movement is off but he has size to guard 4s, and is smart enough to be passable.

    I don't know much about him, but his size and skills intrigue me. And them adding Ben Simmons would make him obsolete.
     
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    He is intriguing, but at what cost. My gut says he would struggle on D. Interesting when I was Googling him I saw this article:

    http://www.phillyvoice.com/drafting-ben-simmons-could-drastically-impact-sixers-guard-rotation/

    "The Sixers would want to target (FA) wings that can shoot and defend, which is easier said than done at a reasonable price range. Portland’s Allen Crabbe is someone who could fit the bill. Dion Waiters carries some risk as far as knowing his role (and I would likely pass for that reason), but he’s currently playing within himself on a title contender. And speaking of local guys, Gerald Henderson might be a decent “buy low” option although he has only been around a 34 percent three-point shooter the last few years."
     
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    In your opinion, what makes him perfect?

    IMO, Noel is a sub par defender, and a sub par passer. He also doesn't seem to have the game to stretch the defense either. Can't really see him as anything more than a role player going forward. Maybe it's been his environment or coaching or whatever, but I would shy away from someone like him
     
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  18. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Noel a sub-par defender? What is your basis for that opinion? Seems to fly in the face of every report and analytic out there.
     
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    Noel is a sub-par offensive player for sure. But defensively? He is close to elite (not elite though).
     
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    This

    It's the same reason I would want Larry Sanders. Noel is a safer bet though but would obviously cost more
     

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