[ official ] 2016 summer moves

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  1. e_blazer

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    Harrison F. Barnes might be that guy...in about ten years.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I wonder if the Cavs would want to deal Love if they fail int he finals.

    If we could put together a decent enough package, and still maintain some space to sign a defensive rim protector, would that be a benefit?
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Dwight's preference is to go east. He has not fared well since he has been in the western conference. And the west is not getting any easier. The question is who in the East wants him that has cap space?
     
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    One other perk, is it takes one of those players that is a match-up problem for us, and puts him on our team.... Sounds kinda simple at that point, but the match-up problems for us are Deandre Jordan, Demarcus Cousins, Dwight Howard, Andrew Bogut, etc... So now that takes one less matchup problem away and helps level the playing field against the others.

    A bonus is Dwight is also a national media presence, which we would add to Dame's presence and the impact McCollum also makes.
     
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    I think that Kobe and Harden are arguably the 2 most difficult players to play on the floor with that the league has had in the last 10 years.
     
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    Im not so sure about this. Yes there are teams on the rise ( Us, Minni, UTah, Phoenix, NO), but I think the following teams have had their best years for this decade already...
    Spurs
    Mavs
    Houston
    Clippers

    Lakers and Sac are not going to be good for a couple more years at best...

    Now might just be the right time to join a rising team in the west.
    Of the teams on the rise, none of them can really use Howard like we can.
     
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    I couldn't help think about that last night. If we want him then I think we should all root for the Cavs to lose in 4 or 5.
    Is he ideal for us? No. But like you alluded to if we surround him with a SF and Center who compliment him then he might be a more realistic option than Horford.
     
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    Would Harkless and Howard compliment love?
     
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    In Dwight's window.......GS, SA, and the Clippers will still be strong. OKC is the wild card depending on Durant. And like you said Portland, Utah, and Minnesota are on the rise.

    Leonard and LMA are still solid pieces for SA. Both them and the Clippers (when healthy) are as good as anyone in the East right now. Besides it is really about perception...and how Dwight's views the West vs the East. I think he is tired of not being a contender.
     
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    The problem is the last 2 stops he's made came with the pressure of being a "Contender" and neither has panned out and clearly the Lakers did not benefit from him leaving.
     
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    See I disagree. I think LMA is going to make the Spurs a perennial second round and out. UNLESS they somehow get a bunch more people to sign for dirt cheap like West did, but if Pop retires, I dont see that happening anymore.
    Clips have hit their peak last year I think. Still good, but not a contender.
    GS will be great still, but we play them well.
    OKC is going to crumble.
     
  12. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Just saying--this should be (expanded a bit to be) an analysis column over at BlazersLand.com.
     
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    Agreed. A top notch A+ post for sure.
     
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    Yeah but who besides Cleveland is as good as those teams you mentioned? They might not be a contender in the West, but they would be in the east. I hope you are right, but there are some big ifs. If Durant stays int he west, no matter what team he is on....that team will more than likely be as good of a contender as any team in the east. Lets hope he moves east.
     
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    You're right. I REALLY don't see it. An over-the-hill, injury-damaged, over-entitled ball-demanding, poor-passing, terrible shooting, near pedophile? What could go wrong? But perhaps I'm being blinded by the shitshows of the last two teams that convinced themselves that Howard was the answer.
     
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    So he ages in reverse?
     
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    Yep you are.
     
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    Well, I think that several East Teams will be better than this year. I think Boston, Milwaukie, Charlotte and Phily will be markedly better. Contenders? Maybe Boston, But there are also alot of teams on the rise in the east as this last year has shown. I think the West dominance is all but over. ESPECIALLY IF Durant heads east.
     
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    i am kind of ambivalent about a howard signing. my feelings swing back and forth concerning fit and personality. age and cost factor as well. i doubt very much he would consider a discounted contract. risk at max and age/health. too many other teams with the cash will be vying for his services. if horford leaves the hawks i believe they become one of the favorites to sign him. its his hometown and where he trains each summer, they will still be a contender even if they trade teague for other assets. they will still spread the floor with milsap and korver opening up the post for howard.
    tiago splitter would likely come available in this scenario and i recall him as a plus pick and roll defender before he got injured last year. mighy be wrong though
     
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    Just thought I would pass this along....I was just listening to Mychal Thompson's radio show in LA just now.
    The subject was free agency and they were going down the list. Mychal who obviously watches the Warriors much closer than any of us, had a surprising take on Harrison Barnes. Thinks with another team he would easily average 18 points a game. He said besides being very athletic, (Which we knew) he was also very smart and very hard working. He said the Warriors will match, but thinks that some team.......would be wise to go after him.
     

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