[ official ] 2016 summer moves

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  1. RR7

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    At the deadline I suggested we make a Leonard for Randolph trade. Still think it would have been a great swap for both teams. Would love his scoring off the bench. I'd take him for cap space this off season, but wouldn't trade actual pieces like vonleh
     
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    At the trade deadline I suggested a Leonard for Pau Gasol swap. Think he'd have helped in the playoffs?
     
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    If we resign all of our guys how much cap does that leave us with...
     
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    Depends on how much they sign for.
     
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    Cap is expected to increase by $22M. Before the Verajao trade, we were ~$14M under the minimum salary of $63M. Cap was $70M. Rough estimate is $22M + 70M - $63M + $14M- $2M (Verajao stretch) - difference between Roberts and Frazier salaries. About $41M.

    That's as if everyone signs for the same amount as this season. Guys get raises if they're already signed. It might take a decent bump to re-sign Hendo. And it's almost certain that Crabbe gets a huge raise - maybe $10M.

    All that said, maybe $24M-$30M.
     
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    2016-17 cap is 89 million

    Our payroll before resigning/signing anyone is about 41 million

    It would not be easy or even doable to resign all our guys plus a big name free agent...

    The only to free agents I'm not completely sold on resigning are of course Kaman because well duh and Meyers

    We need to resign both Crabbe and Harkless, quickly before teams try to sign them to expensive offer sheets

    Henderson - he fits well here...hard to let him go

    We could sign and trade Hendo and Meyers for a better player

    Then sign a big name and some MLES

    A lot to think about
     
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    Most of our free agents are RFA, so we can sign someone and then sign or match them as well. Crabbe, specifically, has a very low cap hold. It's doable, but we'd have to renounce Hendo and Meyers.
     
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    I was thinking between 7-8 for Crabbe

    65 million leaves us 24 million enough to sign a big name and an MLE

    Forgot we were still paying for varajao...at leasts it's a stretch
     
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    Crabbe is going to get more than 8 million a year.
     
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    Looking at the salaries at basketball-reference.com, my estimate is really close.
     
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    If we wait other teams can throw a large offer sheet on the table and screw us...there will be sharks in the water for Crabbe and Harkless, maybe Meyers
     
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    We can wait BECAUSE they're restricted. You think their agents are going to snap up the first offer we give them? They're going to want to wait and see what the market offers after guys like Durant are snatched up.
     
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    Dame gets a $17M bump in salary. Obviously, the salaries are going to be significantly higher next season, if we keep everyone.
     
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    This is our last chance at a free agent because Dame kicks in and then next year CJ will kick in.
     
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    Yeah yeah yeah
     
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    Wait and see.

    Crabbe will get $11 million per year at the minimum.

    Harkless might be in that 7-8 million range. I hope.

    Meyers.... I honestly don't know, but I could see a team throwing some kind of stupid offer at him.
     
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    If I'm OKC, I'm getting revenge for the Kanter deal last year. I would make a huge offer to Crabbe at 12:01. We can't wait, because the clock to match starts ticking right away.

    If it's a $14M/year offer and we match, we immediately lose $14M in cap space.
     
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    Sign Durant( seriously we have to steal him from the Warriors, because nobody will beat them for the next 6-7 years)

    Resign Crabbe, Resign Harkless, Resign Hendo

    Renounce Meyers Leonard

    Sign Jan Vasely of Bismack Biyombo
     
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    Eh, we can agree in principle during the start of free agency with a big name guy. Contracts can't be signed right away, which would prevent OKC from doing something like that.
     
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