Exclusive Official 2017 NBA Draft Thread

I am excited about his long term ceiling. But he needs to get stronger to start IMO. If Noah improves over the summer....he starts, but Collins will still get minutes.
Plus you have Aminu who can still defend the perimeter.

 

'Firmly' ahead of Collins? You act like Noah has even really contributed much of anything in his 2 years with the team. He's shown glimpses. But its going to be an open tryout for the depth chart during training camp.

The coaching staff doesn't owe Noah shit. They gave him almost a full year starting and he was almost non-existent.

 

I love it.

1) ZCollins is the one player I hoped we'd come away with. Despite all the hype around this draft, I see it as a very "meh" class. I expect 4-5 of the top-9 to have Dion Waiters-like careers. Collins has everything we need, has all the upside of the guys picked ahead of him, and fewer of the glaring weaknesses.

2) The player and the forum reaction reminds me a lot of the Lillard draft. Lillard was the guy I felt we had to take even if it was a reach, and that worked out pretty well.

I wouldn't have minded taking a flier on Bell with the 26th pick, even though I could easily see him being a journeyman-at-best, and am lukewarm on Swanigan. I sort of see the logic to that pick, though. We need to build a winner around Dame/CJ/Nurk. Collins might be a couple years away from consistently producing at that level, so why not reach a bit for a low-ceiling, ready to produce guy like Swanigan?

 

Collins is already a better defender than Vonleh.

 

Neither will start. The draft is about the future, not Day 1

 

Noah knows how the NBA plays and is used to the speed of the game, Collins doesn't. Noah also really started to come along when Nurk came into the picture.

 

OK now your Zag pride is showing. He can not defend the perimeter like Noah can. But that is OK ........we need both types of PF's.

 

They're all going to bounce off Nurk in practice...the big man scrimmages are going to be fun! We have a lot of bigs now

 

Warriors get Bell AND Boucher.

 

A couple things from Olsheys's presser. He thinks Swanigan will be good at "team defense". He seems to envision Collins as a backup center and only playing PF with Nurkic in limited situations.

 

I watched some film on him tonight....he's got a lot of offensive skills..he's got a great wingspan...as a rookie he'll play about as much as Tim Quarterman has anyway but hopefully he's coachable

 

Bouche is a great shooter but my god he's a twig....I think the NBA will break him...

 

Vonleh may be ahead of Collins by default, but I wouldn't say there's anything at all firm about his position. He hasn't shown much in his years in the NBA--Collins has a great chance to leapfrog him.

 

Olshey said no money for a second round pick. I wonder if he could have packaged next year's first with Leonard and got one 2nd rounder back. Or maybe packaged with Davis and got 2 back?

 

I love Boucher. His story and the fact he graduated after living in a car in Toronto.........I wish him the best. But in reality he can't even shoot. (Maybe in a Manute Bol type of style) but I doubt he makes it in the NBA.

 

I'm hoping Olshey is looking at shoring up the veteran side of the roster now....I definitely see us trading some pieces this summer

 

Me too....I watched him at a home game against Colorado last time and he was a real sparkplug....

 

Speaking to Swanigan.

If he isn't a bust, Nurk, Collins and Vonleh is a nice rotation.


IMO, too many role players. Thete are gonna be some infighting. NO still has to clear salary

 

Now we have to listen to zags constantly bitch about Collins not getting enough minutes next season. It's gonna be the Olynyk treatment for 82 games.

 

Hopefully he'll use the G league and park two players there from time to time...the rules are changing in regards to that...don't know the details but you can carry 17 guys now and rotate them from the G league or something to that effect...Neil mentioned 2 way contracts and Pat only under contract until July ?