Exclusive Official 2020 Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by tester551, Nov 12, 2019.

  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    It can't be unseen.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I feel it. You been watching any streams? I'm having a lot of fun with those.
     
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    Toppin is definitely similar to Amare in a stylistic and strength/weaknesses sense.

    Not as strong/physical and likely a worse rebounder, but a better passer plus more creativity/touch around the rim.
     
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    Nwora is a hothead though. I like his game but his attitude is shit.
     
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    Amare was a good mid range shooter and ft shooter for a big.

    Toppin will end up taking more 3's, but that's more due to differences in era than anything else.

    I'm not totally sold on Toppin as a 3pt shooter either. Not a ton of volume and ft shooting isn't great. Can get yippy with his release at times too.
     
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    Dayton uses Obi in a lot of dribble hand offs and has him drop slightly on pick and roll defense coverage. He'd fit seamlessly in Stotts' system!
     
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    I look for rhythm and touch in foreshadowing shooting potential, and I like what I see from Obi. His form should also make it easy for him to extend out to the NBA 3pt line.
     
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    I feel like he could shoot so many more 3's if he wanted to but he plays very unselfish for a star at a non-traditional basketball school.
     
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    His passing/unselfishness is definitely underrated and probably my favorite part about his game.
     
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    I don't see why people are interested in Okoro.

    A 6'6 forward who can't shoot to save his life...
     
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    They'd look fine, because they're still just as good now as they were before the trade, and I don't think they'd be all that much better with DeRozan. High reward, little risk.

    Nobody was beating a healthy Golden State. But Ujiri took a risk to put his team in position to capitalize on the Warriors not being at full strength.

    He doesn't get too much credit IMO. He landed the best undrafted rookie free agent this year in Terence Davis who is a good role player on a contender right now, and could develop into a legit starter at some point. Boucher is another undrafted gem. Norman Powell is having a terrific year and he was a second round pick. The Gasol trade was a huge win. He got a legit 3-and-D starter on a contending team with the 23rd pick a couple years ago in OG Anunoby.

    All I see is phenominal, low-risk, high-value moves that was punctuated by what's perceived as a "high risk" move in going after Kawhi, however after losing a consensus top 3 player, they're still 40-15, and have all their future picks.

    Ujiri is probably the best GM out there IMO.

    EDIT - Forgot to mention: drafting Siakam at 27, when that was thought to be a reach at the time.
     
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    I wouldn't mind taking a flier on Josh Green.
     
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    I don't know? Sure solid moves all around. But if Kawhi misses that shot in the ECF and Philly wins that game then lose Leonard? It's a way different story. They don't even get a chance at Golden State let alone beat them when they are down two starters.
    Again I'm not saying at all that he isn't a good even great GM. You put one very small portion of the comment in bold. Things worked out great for Toronto. They gambled and won. But when you draw short straw things tend to look much different.
    I also said "Personally i think he gets a bunch of credit and actually way too much really". I never give myself credit for rolling an 11 at the crap table but i also never convince myself it was just my luck that i roll a 7 and don't come back to point.
     
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    He's pretty good at everything else and has plus strength, athleticism and IQ.

    Shooting is definitely a big if though.
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Sounds a lot like Nas... let’s just develop him instead and draft a player who possesses a useful skill right away, like shooting, rebounding, perimeter defense.
     
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    Okoro has an NBA body right now and will be a decent perimeter defender from day 1. The problem with his offense is a lot of his scoring is based on using his athleticism to get into the paint. Without developing a jump shot he'll struggle to score in the NBA or at least to get clean looks. If he slashed off ball instead of spotting up for three he would be playable right away but I don't know about that style in the modern NBA.
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    I don’t know anything about Okoro other than what you just posted here but can he be Thybulle? If so, that’s a needed skill in the NBA.
     
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    Yeah that's probably fair, except the way they defend is different. Okoro is much more physically imposing and uses his athleticism more. Thybulle I'd say is more of a finesse defender who uses great positioning and awareness. Both probably get to the same place at the end of the day though.
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Sounds like Thybulle is gonna be defending 1-3 and Okoro more 3-4
     
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    I would say 2-4 and slower/bigger pg's.

    Also has the strength to potentially anchor vs 5's in late clock switch situations.
     

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