Politics Official 2024 Presidential Election Thread

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by PtldPlatypus, Jul 25, 2024.

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Who will "Win?"

  1. Harris

    78.6%
  2. Trump

    21.4%
  1. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    You're ranting like a lunatic. In 2005, Khomeini said Israel should be wiped off the map. The Hamas Covenant calls for the destruction of Israel by Islam.

    If you can't admit these very clear and simple, substantiated facts, then you are a fanatic who can't have any kind of constructive conversation on the subject. Not surprising, I've found you aren't even able to discuss the Blazers in a constructive way.

    I don't even know these Zionist talking points. I've said I think Netanyahu engages in genocide worse than Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran, which would seem odd if I'm a Zionist supporter. I don't expect that to mean anything to you, because you seem to be blinded by hatred. It happens. Just don't expect me to engage all of your nonsense. I have important things to do.
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    Trump was the president when Harris was not and failed in every way possible, unlike Biden/Harris. The Biden Administration was cleaning up Trump's humongous mess. If you don't get that, no one can help you, and, honestly, reading your posts, your hatred is out of control and clouds your judgment.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Sincerely Im not trying to take anything out on everyone. Just some basic feedback from a disappointed old fart.
     
  4. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    "The populist language" apparently = hate the trans people, say I've been put upon, lie about American citizens eating their neighbors' pets and call the country a garbage can.

    I'm glad I'm not a populist. I prefer to be a thinking individual.
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    But, I'm sure Hamas kidnapped a thousand random people from a concert just because they wanted to party. Nothing at all out of the ordinary there.
     
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    The economy wasn't better under Trump? Now you're just being dishonest. You're crying and using adhominem attacks because your candidate lost and instead of learning a lesson, you're lashing out at people. It doesn't have to be symmetrical. I appreciate your online diagnosis. Super credible. I'm not even a Trump supporter but this is a perfect example of how the Democratic establishment has pushed away independents and progressives who don't support genocide and terrible neo-liberal policies.

    Take a look in the mirror if you have the courage to. You might be surprised at what you find.
     
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    Funny what you think passes for "thinking."
     
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    I'm not here to do PR for either, but Hamas revised its charter and doesn't say anything about the destruction of Israel. They have explained repeatedly is that their beef is with the Zionist occupation.

    Who do I hate? Do tell. You engaged with me and I responded. Crying all over the board because your mediocre candidate got wiped out and instead of looking at why you're trying to chastise everyone over it. You need a mental health day, buddy. No shame in that. Drink water and take care of yourself.
     
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    I think the biggest thing is that you've gone from saying you didn't support Harris over Trump because her administration enabled genocide to now say Trump speaks the populist language, which, apparently, includes Trump not caring if Israel wipes out the Palestinians entirely.

    Yeah, I don't think you're really in any position to discuss thinking. You've been rationalizing all over the map in the name of hating everyone and everything that doesn't agree with you to the period.
     
  10. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    The economy wasn't better under Trump. It set records under Biden. Apparently you cherry pick what you read in the OT section, because if you were paying attention, you'd have read that most of the people here who have investments have made more money under Biden than we did under Trump. So quit making shit up to support your biases. And your definition of "genocide" is just that. Your definition. You also exaggerate how much the average American gives a shit about Israel and the Middle East in general. It certainly had no weight on my vote. Most people vote with their wallet. And most people (like you) are badly mistaken when they thought Trump did a better job with the economy. I hope you're financially secure enough the withstand the economic shit show headed our way.
     
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    GeNoC1dE hAs NoThInG tO dO w1tH iT. Durr

     
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    Great link. Nothing to do with what anyone told you about why there's no reason to your reasoning.
     
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    Go point to some numbers and tell people their experience with higher prices isn't real. I'm sure it'll work. Keep at it.
     
  14. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I already tried to tell (and show) them that they were dealing with Trump's inflation but they were too stupid to get it. How 'bout you???
     
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    Bro. I AGREE with you. Please listen. The stuff I'm saying is not out of love for Trump, it's from what everyday people are seeing. I already know this. Harris didn't communicate this well at all. There's consequences to cutting taxes like Trump did.
     
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    See, this makes sense, and that's the frustrating thing with you. If you took a deep breath and counted to 10 everytime before you read something you didn't 100% agree with on the Middle East there exists a decent possibility you could deliver a reasonable idea and one that wouldn't alienate people who are more with you than against you, even if not entirely so.
     
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  17. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    This all terribly sucks, but let's chill with the personal attacks.
     
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    Jimmy Kimmel is completely aloof to the fact he is a card-carrying member of the elitist class that was overwhelmingly rejected by average Americans the other night. What is his answer? To wag his finger some more at people who’s lives he’ll never begin to understand.

    Remember, these are the same people who during covid danced and sang little songs with millions in their bank accounts while telling people who live paycheck to paycheck to “just stay home”. Then they shamed them mercilessly if they asked questions.

    Fuck these out of touch assholes. As much as i would love to see them just go away overnight, their slow descent into irrelevance, obscurity, unemployment and medical psychosis is actually much more enjoyable to watch.
     
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    Kamala didn't do well with framing her ideas for dealing with the middle east (Trump didn't either but that's not an issue for him) if she were to get elected. She had voters on both sides of the issue to cater to and she failed to do that. She ignored it by not picking Shapiro and not talking a whole lot about the situation.

    I guess she thought it better to not risk stirring the pot and making it appear she was picking sides or speaking out against one and for another. She should have been more vocal about the situation, been willing to face up to it more.

    In the end though, I don't think that it is what cost her the election. A lot people didn't turn out or vote for her for other reasons.

    Also, if you don't think Trump is going to back Netanyahu bombing Palestine off the map, I don't know what to tell you.
     
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  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Are we honestly pretending that the side that won this week doesn't also cater to the elitist class? The conservative power brokers are just as out of touch with the common man.
     

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