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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by PDXFonz, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. RipCityDSCPL

    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    What you did there. I see it.
     
  2. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Meh. Hilarious. There's no hassle at all. They simply won't put Crawford on any of his kid's games. They might even tailor his schedule so he could watch a few of his kid's games if he makes the team. As far as Workman refereeing former teammates, if someone wants to trade their integrity for well, nothing... more power to them. They're under more scrutiny by the league for refereeing former teammates anyway. Everything is on video.
     
  3. riverman

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    Joey Crawford no longer works NBA games ...he retired but works an analyst booth for reviews I think
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I'm just saying I know for a fact there has never been a ref who hasn't worked a certain teams games for an entire season.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Well I guess that fixes it then
     
  6. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    I'm hoping that N'Orleans will give up on him sooner rather than later. Maybe he can be the next Pau Gasol (although not going to the Lakers, I hope).
     
  7. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    He would be the kind of 2-way player we need and fits in with our window. This would be a consolidation trade I could get behind, much more than Blake or Cousins. I'd offer them anyone on our roster besides Dame and C.J. and has many draft picks as it would take.

    He's never been in a good situation with a strong leader in NOP. Combine his talent with Dame and C.J. and we'd have our Big 3. And, he's still only 23.

    BNM
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Then they would laugh at you and take a better offer elsewhere.
     
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    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

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    We would have to make the trade packaged to New Orleans CJ centered, there's no way they make a deal with ANYONE without getting an elite player at their position back.
     
  10. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    They already lost Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson. If they lose Davis, they would be in complete rebuild mode. We own all our own 1st round picks and the one we got from CLE.

    We have a very young, very deep roster. If Vonleh continues to show signs, we could package him and Harkless, our two youngest players, and a bunch of picks.

    Not really sure what anyone else has to offer, but I thought part of the reason for retaining all our guys was to amass assets for a future consolidation trade. We are one of the youngest and supposedly (at least that's what I keep hearing) one of the deepest teams in the league. We should be able to put together a package that would help NOP kick start their inevitable rebuild.

    I haven't checked, but does NOP have any big contracts they'd like to shed? We could help them out there and then cut that player and use the stretch provision to spread out the cap/tax hit over the next five years, like we did last year with Varejao.

    BNM
     
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    Michael Carter-Williams is being traded to Chicago for Tony Snell. Why can't MCW stick with a team? Seems like the former rookie of the year can't find the right fit.
     
  12. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He didn't even seem that great when he did win it.
     
  13. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Watching Minnesota/OKC - hardly any US players involved!

    Westbrook and Roberson I guess.
     
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    That Joey Crawford
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Oladipo is the shooting guard version of Westbrook. They've got guards who are defensive monsters who can't shoot, and bigs who can shoot but can't defend.
     
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    thanks...fixed it
     
  17. selloutking

    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    wait wait wait
    so you would rather get the guy that cant play a full season, like ever. Instead of the guy that can do 90% of what he can do, plus ad 5% more of things davis CANT do, AND plays full seasons...

    interesting
    considering how much push back people seemed to have over getting festus due to seeming injury prone, and he is a bench asset, not what would be a sure thing starter...
     
  18. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Sorry, you lost me. Who are you talking about? The other two players I mentioned have played FEWER games than Anthony Davis over the last two years.

    Anthony Davis:
    2014-15 = 68 games
    2015-16 = 61 games
    Total = 129 games

    Blake Griffin:
    2014-15 = 67 games
    2015-16 = 35 games
    Total = 102 games

    DeMarcus Cousins:
    2014-15 = 59 games
    2015-16 = 65 games
    Total = 124 games

    If that's your argument, it doesn't look like any of them have been playing full seasons lately. On top of playing only 35 games last season, Blake Griffin couldn't even make it through the first round of the playoffs without getting injured again.

    Griffin is 4 years older than Davis, scores and rebounds less and isn't close to the defender Davis is. Griffin is a better passer and used to get more highlight reel dunks. Not so any more. Blake averaged between 2.5 and 2.9 dunks per game his first three seasons. Two years ago, that dropped to 1.25 dunks per game and last season it was all the way down to 1.0 dunks per game. It would appear that age and injury are robbing him of the athleticism that made him a SporrtsCenter Top 10 regular earlier in his career. Just for sake of comparison, the injuries Anthony Davis has received have not been career threatening and have not robbed him of any athleticism. In fact, his dunks per game has never been below 2.0 and his 2.4 dunks per game last season was a career high.

    Of course, there is more to playing basketball than dunking, but for a player like Blake Griffin who relies on freakish athleticism for a big part of his game, this is a big red flag. The other big red flag is he's a total asshole and a terrible teammate.

    Cousins is an even worse teammate. He's a coach killer and a chemistry killer. He constantly feuds with his coaches and throws his teammates under the bus. He only scores more than Davis because he shoots more. He's has a much higher UGS%, but significantly lower TS% and FG%. Davis is a more efficient scorer, MUCH better defender, a MUCH, MUCH better teammate and 3 years younger.

    I said this team needs more 2-way players. Davis is. Cousins and Griffin, not so much I'd take Davis over those other two asshats in a heartbeat.

    BNM
     
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    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    I was talking about DMC, fuck blake griffin, so least we are on the same page there.

    but you have to look deeper than how many games were missed, and see why those games were missed

    01/30/2016 Left ankle sprain
    11/25/2015 Sore back
    11/01/2015 Strained right Achilles
    04/07/2015 Sore right foot
    03/18/2015 Right calf strain
    02/27/2015 Sprained left ankle
    01/17/2015 Right ankle sprain
    12/26/2014 Stomach illness
    11/30/2014 Viral meningitis
    02/18/2014 Strained left hip flexor
    01/22/2014 Ankle
    12/03/2013 Ankle injury
    and then getting suspended more recently, that and being sick isn't the same type of missed games as what missing due to injury is. and his sore foot 4/7 he missed 6 games with that, the last 6 games of the season, on a team that clearly wasn't making the playoffs, tank mode to blame maybe?

    10/12/2016 Sprained ankle
    03/18/2016 Sore left knee
    02/27/2016 Sprained right toe
    01/25/2016 Concussion
    01/08/2016 Back
    11/18/2015 Sore shoulder
    11/11/2015 Right hip strain
    03/19/2015 Sprained ankle
    02/21/2015 Sprained shoulder
    02/07/2015 Sprained right shoulder
    01/30/2015 Sore groin
    01/16/2015 Sprained left toe
    12/13/2014 Chest contusion
    04/09/2014 Back spasms
    03/28/2014 Ankle
    01/29/2014 Finger
    12/01/2013 Fractured left hand
    shit going on all over his body, and missed a huge portion due to a season ending injury.

    plus, DMC's is over 6 years, the longer list from AD is only over 4...

    I am still a firm believer of DMC just needs a better situation, we all know the kings as an organization is kind of a joke.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Damn FAMS^! You are either UNEMPLOYED/NOT MARRIED/OR CURRENTLY BOTH because you got a TON of time to do all that research. I don't know whether to give you props or not! I don't even have time to read all that!
     

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