Official Around the NBA - February Edition

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, Feb 1, 2015.

  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I actually agree with Charles to an extent. Think about this.... Wesley Matthews came into the league without a 3 point shot. Then Matthews developed a shot. I think analytics works for "role players" when you already have an established core, but it doesn't work for building the core.
     
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  2. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Love Charles. So damn funny. and fuck the rockets!
     
  3. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Not the first time Morey has tweeted something stupid. I bet he ends up like that chick who got fired for tweeting "On my way to Africa, hope I don't get Aids!".
     
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    I'm not spinning anything, you are. I've presented the facts numerous times and you just straight up ignore them. So believe what you want.

    Anyone that uses analytics do not use them for everything. Charles is in no way right to this. Especially that the Warriors and Hawks use analytcis too. They are a tool not a dogmatic religious idea.

    Except that what Morey tweeted is true, Charles is incredibly biased towards the Rockets. So when Charles says some dumb stuff like "Rockets are the worst defensive team in the NBA." he's again just showing his bias. "No team that allows 118 points is a contender." except that his 1993 team did so 11 times lol. Great point Charles.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Okay so you believe Howard's injury is minor? The injury where he injected bone marrow and is out for 6-8 weeks? Like that minor? I don't have to spin anything. Being out that long is either a serious injury or a broken bone. So which is it?


    Everyone uses analytics, but his point was "advanced analytics" doesn't build a champion, talent does. I 100% agree with this.


    We all agree Charles doesnt know shit, but his point about advanced stats is true. Sorry
     
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    LULZ! You sound like Blazer fans whenever Chuck would knock us for being a jump-shooting team.
     
  7. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not sure that bringing up a team from 22 years ago, when defenses were different and rules were different, is such a good point to make.

    A better example would've been to say that the 13 Heat gave up 118 once (in double OT though) and the 14 Spurs gave up 118 once too (also in double OT).

    In the game where the Heat gave up 118+ (129 actually), they gave up 112 in regulation. Their season high otherwise was 116.

    In the game where the Spurs gave up 118+ (118 exactly), they gave up 99 in regulation. So 115 was their high otherwise.

    Not sure that's the bar we need to set though.
     
  8. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I didn't.
     
  9. HomerLovesKoolAid

    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    Me neither.
     
  10. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think there might've been what, 3 people who wanted him to stay. I think it was a very small majority who wanted to keep him.

    But than again, this is from the guy who thinks Damian drinks like a fish.
     
  11. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Hickson could pad some stats, and he would hustle his butt to do so, but I always thought he was a net negative. Still do.
     
  12. riverman

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    I didn't want JJ back. He was just never a team player and he padded stats in his contract year. He had the same weakness TRob has shown at times, out of position on defense. JJ has a lot of talent but tunnel vision on the court.
     
  13. HomerLovesKoolAid

    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    But if Denver got T-Rob they could have the all-numbskull front line and would lead the league in Shaqtin' the fool appearances!
     
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    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    Wow- talk about numbskull editing events! lol
     
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    Not falling for that strawman. I never said anything about major or minor, you are the one that compared it to B.Roy's injuries and have implied that it is career altering. Breaking bones is not career altering by the way, the bones heal. Either way, it's not a broken bone, it is a Edema. That is what it is.



    It's not true, because his point was that they are a bunch of crap. That's his words. So he disagrees with the past 3 championship teams, that's true? That's a guy you're backing? Spurs have been using this stuff, Morey came from the Celtics FO btw, who have been using it. Any franchise that is worth it's salt is using this stuff.

    Charles just positioned himself further from a GM job. BTW Charles says all Morey did was get Harden when he was against the trade and thought the Thunder WON the trade then. He seriously thought that Martin/Lamb was better than Harden at the time. Basketball wise that is, we know why OKC makes that trade (in a perfect world with no cap then they probably don't) but he thought it was a good move for the Thunder. So according to Charles he wouldn't have even made the trade for Harden in the first place...

    Yeah, i just bought it up because it's a bad point to make any ways. Teams get hot or sometimes players are just fatigued or not focused. It happens over an 82 game season now and then.

    The only reason Charles said this though is because he despises the Rockets. He has this grudge against the organization, he'll say one good thing about them. Usually related to Harden and that's it. I should correct myself, he likes the city and maybe the team but he doesn't like the owner. So he'll just always say the Rockets made a mistake, he used to talk about Yao Ming too. I don't think he even cared about the points we allowed last night, if it wasn't that it would have been something else.
     
  16. Strenuus

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  17. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Last night was the 5th time through 52 games the Rockets have given up => 118 points, all in regulation and the previous 4 all losses.

    So, maybe Chuck has a point. When was the last time a team that gave up =>118 points 5, or more, times in regulation during the regular season won a championship, or made the finals?

    BNM
     
  18. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    In the case of the 2014-15 Rockets, now and then = about once every 10 games.

    BNM
     
  19. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    And since it's bound to come up, the Blazers have given up => 118 points twice this season.

    Once in a 3OT 129-119 win over the defending champion Spurs (97 points in regulation) and once in a 118 - 113 loss to PHO.

    BNM
     
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    http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ap-source-george-karl-coach-kings-star-break-28897936

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    The person spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the discussions were private. The plan is for Karl to coach the Kings in their first game following the All-Star break Feb. 20 at home against Boston, meaning Tyrone Corbin will be coaching his final game for Sacramento on Wednesday night at Milwaukee.

    Karl is attending funeral services for former North Carolina coach Dean Smith this week. The Kings are expected to announce the deal in the coming days after final terms have been agreed upon and the contract has been signed.

    Karl will be Sacramento's third coach this season.

    The Kings (18-33) made the surprising move to fire Michael Malone in December after an 11-13 start in his second season as coach, even though they had shown progress until All-Star center DeMarcus Cousins was sidelined for an extended period with viral meningitis. Sacramento slid even further after promoting Corbin from lead assistant, losing 12 of its last 14 games and 20 of 27 overall since Malone's dismissal.

    Karl is a proven winner in the league and a familiar face for Sacramento's front office.

    Kings general manager Pete D'Alessandro and assistant general manager Mike Bratz are among those who worked with him in Denver, and team adviser Chris Mullin played for Karl with theGolden State Warriors from 1986-88.

    Karl last coached in the 2012-13 season, when he won NBA Coach of the Year with the Nuggets before being fired following a first-round playoff loss to the Warriors. D'Alessandro left Denver that summer and brought Bratz with him to Sacramento.

    The Nuggets made the postseason all nine years under Karl. They advanced past the first round only once during his tenure, losing to the Los Angeles Lakers in the 2009 Western Conference finals.

    Karl, who has been working as an analyst for ESPN, has let it be known the last two months that he wants another shot on the sidelines. He has openly talked about his interest and recently thanked fans in Sacramento and Orlando — which fired coach Jacque Vaughn last week — for their support on Twitter.

    The 63-year-old Karl, a cancer survivor, is one of nine coaches in league history to eclipse 1,000 wins. He has 1,131 victories as a head coach, with stops in Cleveland, Golden State, Seattle and Milwaukee, earning a reputation for turning around teams.

    Sacramento certainly presents another one of those challenges.

    The Kings are headed for a ninth straight losing season and are trying to rebuild around Cousins, who has a history of clashing with coaches but was close with Malone. Cousins clearly doesn't like being dragged into the situation, though, venting his frustration to reporters after hitting the game-winning shot against Phoenix on Sunday night and releasing a statement through his agents at Relativity Sports to several media outlets Tuesday.

    "I wasn't consulted when the decision was made to fire Mike Malone and I'm not being consulted now," Cousins said in the statement. "I just hope they make a decision soon and stick with it. George Karl is an experienced, proven coach and if that is who they chose to coach this team, I will support it. I do not like all these discussions in the media while we have a coach in place. It is a distraction and not fair to Coach Corbin and this team."

    Kings owner Vivek Ranadive, Mullin and D'Alessandro had discussed Karl's candidacy since December. They'd also weighed whether to conduct a lengthier search in the offseason when more coaches might be available and have the benefit of training camp to prepare.

    But with the Kings continuing to fall into irrelevance in the deep Western Conference, they ultimately decided to make another switch now.
     

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