Official Around the NBA May 2019 Playoff Edition Thread!

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  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    Here i'll dig em out for you-

    "The most efficient guard in pick and roll (1.039 PP), spot-up (1.388), and isolation off screen situations (1.324), Lillard dominates most categories in this study. Perhaps the most impressive aspect of Lillard's showing on paper is the paltry 9.8% turnover rate he posted despite teams game planning to stop him on a nightly basis. Just an average finisher (1.127 PPP), making plays at the rim in traffic may be Lillard's biggest challenge at the next level, but his ability to score in a variety of ways from the perimeter should be him a valuable asset to whichever team drafts him. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Damian-Lillard-6152/ ©DraftExpress"

    "The large emphasis of the pick-and-roll game in today's NBA bodes well for Lillard, as he's shown to be very effective as the ball-handler in pick-and-roll situations. His ability to smoothly pull up off the dribble from deep range makes it difficult for his defenders to go underneath the screen, while his burst off the dribble allows him to turn the corner quickly and get into the paint. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Damian-Lillard-6152/ ©DraftExpress"

    "Lillard still hasn't shown a great deal in terms of pure playmaking ability, but he looks to have nice passing instincts on dribble penetration, and his role at Weber State calls for him to be their primary scorer, so it's tough to get a gauge of just how much of a distributor he might be in a different situation. This might be the biggest question he faces as enters the draft process, as he's clearly not big enough to play any other position besides point guard. As a defender, Lillard is showing much of what we've already seen from him in the past, moving well laterally and utilizing his length to play intense on-the-ball defense. He'd have a huge adjustment to make to defending NBA point guards full-time, though, as it's apparent he can lose his focus from time to time, after expending so much energy on the offensive end. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Damian-Lillard-6152/ ©DraftExpress"

    "Looking at Lillard's dribble drive game as a whole, there is much to be impressed with, ranging from his well-developed handle with both hands, his ability to change directions with ease in the lane, and his general awareness and tendency to always keep his head up with the ball. On the down side, however, despite a solid first step, Lillard doesn't stand out very much with his second or third gear, not often showing the ability to take it to the next level the way elite guards do. To his credit, his solid height and excellent length allow him to make up for this somewhat in the finishing department, where he does a good job scoring over (or going through) the competition, while also showing flashes of a developing floater that would further take advantage of his size. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Damian-Lillard-6152/ ©DraftExpress"

    These are facts. Don't try to tell people to get their research done unless you are willing to get your own done as well.
     
  2. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    That is not a thumbnail report. Look again. It has 5 different reports and they all say the same thing.

    On top of that i was here and well into the report from more than just draft express. Every report known to man had Lillard as a half court PG.
     
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    Totally agree with you - I think the lack of it is shared equally between Terry and Dame. I'm not sure which one it started with, but at this point neither of them put much importance on the fast break.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Not sure where to put this but damn I love Enes!! I wish we can find a way to keep this man:

     
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    For what it's worth https://www.nbadraft.net/players/damian-lillard
    Has some comments on his transition game.
    Aggressive in transition, always looking to make something happen ... Is one guys take. Listed as a strength.
    Makes better decisions in the half court than full. Will need to become better on the break … Another guys take, listed as a weakness.
     
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  6. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    That's it for me on this subject. Lillard is who he is.
    You guys can dissect Stotts for the next 3 months without me about why he doesn't make players do things they don't do.
    Hope you enjoy it.
     
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    You don't have the video breakdown to which I'm referring. You don't have the stats either.
     
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  8. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    It was literally every draft report out there for the most part.
     
  9. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    Okay. No video. No stats. Sure.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    It's the only reason you're opening your mouth on this subject.

    IDGAF if they rehired him or not. I don't like Stotts style of play on O or D. MFs can say what they want about him without you always getting butthurt. Seriously... :dry:

    Ask yourself this smart guy, did the Mavericks championship team fast break?

    Yeah.. No... Not even with Jason Kidd at the helm.
     
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    "For comparison's sake, here's the video we produced on Lillard two years ago in the leadup to the 2012 NBA Draft: - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Revisiting-Damian-Lillard-Scouting-Video--4391/ ©DraftExpress"

    This video breakdown and the stats are no longer available. It explains the amount of PPP he gets in transition.
     
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    I dont remember, but wasnt Kidd basically old and done at that point? Not trying to argue your point, Stotts has never had an offense that emphasized transition, thats a fair point I think.
     
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    that's not true

    I did not know anything about Lillard around this time in 2012. I went to draft express and read all the scouting reports and it was mentioned that he was good at transition offense. We discussed that at RealGM. I remember this clearly

    I don't care what's left of the DE scouting reports. I know what I read and what the discussion was at the time. There was a lot of opposition to drafting Dame at that time, and this was a point of contention and debate after several year's of Nate's glacially-paced offense.

    in 2011-12, the year before Stotts, Portland ranked 24th in the NBA in fast break points at 10.9/game. They were 27th in fast break efficiency. The first year under Stotts, and Dame, Portland slipped to 25th at 9.9 points/game. The next year climbed to 22nd at 11.0/game. In 2015/16, they were 21st at 11.1/game; the following year they were at 11.3/game. But in 2017-18 they dropped to 3oth at 8.4 points a game. This year, back up to 24th at 10.9.

    Portland has been in the bottom 3rd of the league since before Stotts and Dame arrived; and they've stayed there. Maybe Dame has something to do with, but Stotts does to

    and just maybe the reason that Portland 'sucks' at fast breaks is because they are always at the bottom of the league in forcing turnovers. This year 28th, last year 29th, the years before 26th. Teams who force a lot of turnovers are always tops in transition offense.
     
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    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    Well at least you got that part right.
     
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    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    It would seem seven years of history would agree with you.
    Damians idea of pushing it is a pull up three.
    Nothing wrong with that. It just is who he is.
     
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  17. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    I don't need to watch a video of him. I watched him for 7 seasons now straight as the starting PG for the Portland Trailblazers.
    Your Video. Your Stats. They are pretty much irrelevant at this point. Lillard can push the ball. We have all seen it. Lillard does not push the ball. We have all seen it. Stotts tells his players to push the ball. We have all seen it. The Blazers do not push the ball well. We have all seen it.

    If you really want my opinion on this? Here it is. You change out Aminu with someone who is not an absolute trainwreck with the ball in his hands and get a SG that is a more willing passer and an athletic jumper? Then you might get Lillard running more. The way this team is comprised i just don't think they will run.
    Someone else made a statement about the Bigs all looking to get the ball to a PG after a rebound instead of looking for the quick outlet pass down court. This is another issue for sure.
     
  18. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    I was just writing pretty much the same thing. He is who he is at this point.
     
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    If Lillard wanted to push the ball more, he would and Stotts wouldn't be stopping him. Transition offense is the most efficient offense if you have someone who can drive it--Curry, Harden, Simmons love to get out in transition and are great at it. If Lillard felt comfortable doing the same, Stotts would not be telling him not to. I think it's fairly clear that the offense runs according to the skills and comfort of Portland's stars. Stotts didn't push Aldridge out of what he liked to do, and he wouldn't do that with Lillard.

    Maybe you could argue that Stotts should be pushing Lillard out of his comfort zone and into running more. Or maybe both he and Lillard don't feel that that's what Lillard is best at.
     
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