OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA THREAD: December 2019

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, CJ's at the far left because of minutes. He's down low because his TPA (total points added) is low, because he had a very poor start to the season.

    Most negative posts about Harden are not about his impact, but his style. Nobody denies that he helps his team win games; most just hate the way he often does it, the way he exploits rules/officials to generate foul calls.
     
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    HardenHat.jpg

    Look at the simple things, in the first picture, you can see that Lebron is doing manual work, he is wearing his harden hat.

    PastCurrentCeltics.jpg

    The 2nd picture shows you that the Celtics changed from Kyrie as their PG... Now, it's Kemba.

    The same way you can see that Luka is coming for the MVP title, and is stalking the current MVP.

    Does this help?
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Kind of looks like what a lot of have been saying. The teams defense, although improving, is a big issue.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Is this saying Damian is a worse defender than Harden?
     
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    So TPA measures the player on BOTH ends? So if said player is scoring a ton, but his team played shitty defense, does it negatively impact them?
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    See that's what it looks like to me. Surprising.
     
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    Precisely. The second graph you posted shows both halves of TPA--offensive points added (left to right) and defensive points saved (bottom to top).
     
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    Then this is a stat I don't much faith in. A player shouldn't be hurt by his team being bad defensively overall. Am I wrong? And shouldn't be rewarded for the opposite. Shit so any player on the Clippers is getting a boost because they play alongside PG13,Beverly and Kawahi? Am I not getting this?
     
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    These calculations are based on individual OBPM and DBPM - (Box plus/minus) ratings adjusted to the number of possession a player was a part of - it is for the individual within the team.

    https://nbamath.com/tpa-model/
     
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    Gotcha.... ya THE HCP has never liked the +/-
     
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    What does the hcp mean?? Why "the" ??
     
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    HCP = He's Completely Psychotic
     
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    This is exactly why we need a FAQ thread for rooks. Mandatory reading. Top 10 threads of all time. Highlighting the history, ins and outs of S2. Learn the forum, then post.
     
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    Would you mind translating that into German for him?
     
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    Everybody knows it's THE HPV, not THE HCP.
     
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    Ah, he's in Germany. Gotcha. Damn, they make quality cars.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Oh yeah, that's right--you do love you some Audi, don't you?
     
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    As much as my kids.
     
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