OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA THREAD - July 2021

i agree that he should be aggressive, but you will lose every negotiation in which you put all your chips on the table early. This all conjecture anyway. No indication that he hasn't already done it.

Getting Jones to pick up his option was one of the first dominoes in our summer that was crucial. Let's see how it goes from now.

 

Right but these negotiations have to have been going on in a really serious at the very least since Dame's presser and more likely since Neil met with Dame after Stotts was fired. So by no means could today be the first offer. So at this point the value of our assets has been gauged. There is a chance that there are no needle moving moves that the trigger can be pulled on but I very seriously doubt that is the case.

Most likely the hold up is Neil trying to get over on everybody and being willing to do nothing before he takes a strategic loss that would vastly improve our team.

 

It’s crazy to me that there is this many suitors for Lowry. 30 million a year at age 35. Him and Chris Paul both. Jesus.

 

i like his fit as well if the minutes are there to justify his $10mill. salary, without attaching assets. if he brought additional ones our way it might change the balance of my stance.

 

Sato has positive value.

 

that's fine. I just don't believe that the dickering started in the last few days. For instance, Portland and Philly had their seasons end weeks ago

Jones opting in may be important. That's a good bit of salary filler in a large trade and even good salary leverage in a smaller one-for-one trade. I think we can all agree that Olshey's preference would be to do something like Jones and a first, or two, for somebody like Larry Nance Jr. It's pretty certain Olshey is still reluctant to trade CJ

Nance wouldn't alter Portland's trajectory but it might be the kind of deal that would cover Neil's ass for a while. Allow him to punt the ball down field for a few more months and take some pressure off

 

please add why if there are less minutes available at the 1/2 than at 3/4 presently?

 

Yeah, it's hardly a simple situation. Teams that can really get better by getting CJ are going to want Dame, so Neil convincing teams that they won't get Dame no matter what in order to value CJ is a bit of a sell but there are 30 teams that would probably give great value for Dame. I say that because if the rumors are true and Steph Curry's team wants Dame, who won't. So if you were Neil you could be pretty convincing in telling a handful of teams that if they refuse to take a good deal now that includes CJ they'll be pissing away the only chance they'll ever get at either of our guards.

All of that said, when I saw that DJ was opting in now, I kind of thought that might mean there was a deal on the table that is to Neil's liking for a CJ/DJ centered package.

 

it just seems like some of you guys are laying the groundwork to trash the guy before he even gets a chance to do something. Do you know for sure what he's offering/planning? How do you know he won't trade CJ?

he has admittedly said he is going to be more aggressive this year. Let's see if that was just blowing smoke also before killing him.

Also, if he can land Nance in a trade centered around Jones, that's a DAMN GOOD deal for us.

 

I hope he's not reluctant to trade CJ if there is value in it. If he still thinks he can build a contending roster with the Dame/CJ back court that would be so crushing... especially if he thinks adding Norm to that mess makes sense... when we just saw that it doesn't work and have seen for five years that Dame and CJ don't work.

 

Positive trade value.

 

I'm just fretting. If Neil gets us a forward for CJ that fits the team better and upgrades the roster and gets Norm to re-sign. Then makes a good signing with the taxpayer MLE. I will be stoked. If Neil sits on his hands and Norm walks I'll be distraught. If Neil sits on his hands and re-signs Norm to a reasonable deal, I'll just be in wait and see mode but still probably fretting.

 

Laying the groundwork to trash him. As if he’s not laid a groundwork for 9 years.

Until he actually swings a meaningful deal I will continue to assume the worst.

 

do you understand that for myself and many others around here, after 9 years of Olshey-speak, there is no benefit of the doubt extended?

I mean, 3 months ago Dame was a Blazer for life. In 3 weeks, he could demand a trade when he returns from Tokyo. That buck stops on Olshey's desk.

 

if by training camp, we show up with largely the same roster, i'll be carrying pitchforks right next to you. but I want to see what he does first.

 

over the value of the utility of DJJ as a fit to our roster? i don't see it. Chicago has only a guarantee of $5mil so the team option in regards to tax monies owed might be of value if it is declined before the draft. but we aren't over the tax. flip him to someone that is before the draft for an asset? could see it. his fit here before the deadline and before the rest of the roster components is known makes it hard to justify again.

 

Trade value around the League. As in you’re attaching assets to DJJ, not getting any back.