Official Around The NBA Thread.....July

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  1. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I’d be curious as to @dviss1 opinion, I think there are three guys who travel a lot Giannis, Ben Simmons and James Hardens step back, and it bothers me when I watch them play, but I’m not a ref. I’m not denying they’re all talented good players.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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  3. THE HCP

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    They might but not anymore than any other player. He is just so long it looks so much more exaggerated. Guy is a freak of nature.
     
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    He's not doing the same "euro" step every time. Sometimes he takes 3 full on steps. Other times he does it legally. You have to determine when he picks up the ball (possesses the ball with a used dribble).

    Traveling is literally the hardest call to make.

    Looks like Giannis travels A LOT.
     
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    If you watch that video above you will see LOTS of traveling.
     
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    I hear you, but I could put together a video of times where he looks like he does, but he isn’t. I could also make one that makes Meyers look like The Dream in the post.
     
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    I could look like the dream in a video as well if you were guarding me. Just like nards looks like the dream when he's checked in the summer by trainers.
     
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  8. dviss1

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    Put together your video. I'll tell you which moves are traveling and which ones aren't. From the video above of say he travels on well over 75% of those moves.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Is this a challenge? Are you challenging me sir?
     
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    Absolutely agreed. Of course, they analyze ONE play where he's not traveling and saying "see, he doesn't travel." What I don't understand is why no one ever just identifies the pivot foot. On the analyzed play, he gathers with his front right foot on the ground and his left rear foot in the air - his pivot foot. He steps forward establishing his pivot foot on the ground. Now, as long as that pivot foot doesn't touch the ground anywhere else, it's not traveling. In the example, he didn't. But in some of the others shown he definitely did.

    OT: Traveling by drivers in real time is hard to call. However, another thing I don't understand is that traveling occurs very often by 3 point shooters - including Lillard! I was amazed years ago when I went to a Blazers-Jazz game that Korver was practicing traveling before the game (and in fact did it during the game). If you gather with 2 feet on the ground, one of them HAS to be your pivot foot - it can't come back down. However, Korver was practicing gathering with 2 feet on the ground and hopping, then shooting - that's traveling.
     
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    Lillard rarely travels. CJ does a lot on his step back but Lillard it's really fundamentally sound.

    And what your saying is partly true. One has to be a pivot but you can choose either of they both come down at the same time.
     
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