Villainueva will more than likely be in the draft his year if he performs decently. He wanted to go pro since high school but decided to do the smart thing and went to college to improve his stock. Despite the fact that he loses focus from time to time and doesnt seem to have a good work ethic his size, athleticism, versatility and potential will ensure he doesnt fall out of the lottery. But I'm not so sure about having him on my team either. He can work out very well for us or he can be a complete waste of potential and time. And we already have enough wasted potential on our team. If we cant get Bogut the next player we should be looking to get is Tiago Splitter. Good post up game, athletic, can put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket, can block shots if he really wanted to, overall smart player. Only real issue with his is that he has no jumpshot. But his mechanics arent bad and he used to be able to shoot from the midrange so if he works at it he can probably be a good shooter. If he can get a midrange jumper and bulk up some I'm sure Agguire would be able to do wonders with him. I dont know about Petro. He's projected to go in the middle of the first round and doesnt have alot offense. Granted we do need more defense but Tiago also plays defense and can be a good offensive threat. If we cant get Tiago then we should take a gamble on Villainueva. By the way is it possible to get the number one pick by trading Marbury?
Highly, HIGHLY doubt anyone is going to trade the #1 pick for Marbury. If you're talking about trading him to a team that's destined for the lottery, then yeah theoratically it could happen.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Platehpus:</div><div class="quote_post">Highly, HIGHLY doubt anyone is going to trade the #1 pick for Marbury. If you're talking about trading him to a team that's destined for the lottery, then yeah theoratically it could happen.</div> Could we trade Marbury, our pick for their #1 throw in? I think that might be looked at.
No. I don't think any of the teams who potentially 'have' the #1 could match Marbury's contract. Plus Marbury isn't the ideal piece for a rebuilding franchise (to put it nicely).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Could we trade Marbury, our pick for their #1 throw in? I think that might be looked at.</div> Yuck. How about no. That's giving up too much in my opinion especially if we also have a relatively high pick. Marbury is worth at least one lottery pick. We could trade him for someone else's lottery pick and hang onto ours. Get ourselves a brand new point guard(Jarett Jack) and Tiago Splitter. But nothing would make me happier than trading Marbury for the number one pick and using it to get Bogut while using the other pick to get Tiago Splitter. Bogut could start while Nazr and Splitter split the rest of the minutes at center. I think Marbury alone can get us the number one pick. Some teams like the Hawks will take him so that they can breathe some life into their franchises. Another option is to trade him for a pick so that we increase our chances of getting the number one pick.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Yuck. How about no. That's giving up too much in my opinion especially if we also have a relatively high pick. Marbury is worth at least one lottery pick. We could trade him for someone else's lottery pick and hang onto ours. Get ourselves a brand new point guard(Jack Stone) and Tiago Splitter. But nothing would make me happier than trading Marbury for the number one pick and using it to get Bogut while using the other pick to get Tiago Splitter. Bogut could start while Nazr and Splitter split the rest of the minutes at center. I think Marbury alone can get us the number one pick. Some teams like the Hawks will take him so that they can breathe some life into their franchises. Another option is to trade him for a pick so that we increase our chances of getting the number one pick.</div> That's what I said before however, many people felt that I was bugging and Marbury isn't worth a lottery. Throwing our pick would just 'seal the deal.' I wish Isiah would wake up and smell the coffe. How can you ignore the fact everywhere Marbury goes, losing follows him. As if the Hawks can suck enough. Marbury at the very least will put fans in their seats and still give you 20ppg. Even if Antoine leaves, they still save a ton of cap room to sign someone half way decent. If we get Bogut through Marbury, we should draft a point guard with our pick. Paul would probably be gone by the time so Maybe a look at Felton and the rest of them would be good.
I don't think Splitter demands the same respect as a Petro down low. We need some offense, but our defensive woes is what hurts us the most in games. With Ariza and Sweetney and Crawford only getting better, would you want to acquire a defensive monster who can rebound? I think Aguirre can teach him a thing or two so he wont be completely useless. From what I have read, he can develop into a possible 12/10/ 2-3bpg kind of guy. I would take that in a minute. I also heard he can be a Tyson Chandler, or maybe even a Theo Ratliff. We need a shot tosser or a Bogut. Please Isiah find a way to get Bogut.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think Splitter demands the same respect as a Petro down low. We need some offense, but our defensive woes is what hurts us the most in games. With Ariza and Sweetney and Crawford only getting better, would you want to acquire a defensive monster who can rebound? I think Aguirre can teach him a thing or two so he wont be completely useless. From what I have read, he can develop into a possible 12/10/ 2-3bpg kind of guy. I would take that in a minute. I also heard he can be a Tyson Chandler, or maybe even a Theo Ratliff. We need a shot tosser or a Bogut. Please Isiah find a way to get Bogut.</div> Actually some people say Splitter's defense is better than his offense. He's not a bad defender at all in fact he's pretty good. He knows how to battle for position, has good footwork on both ends of the court, he plays good team defense and his athleticism combined with his wingspan could make him a serious shot blocking prescence. I think if he practices his jumpshot, gets stronger, works out with Agguire he could, and is encouraged to go for the block(he's too smart to risk his defensive position to go for the block but he could be a good shot blocker if he really wanted to) he could be an all around great center on both defense and offense.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually some people say Splitter's defense is better than his offense. He's not a bad defender at all in fact he's pretty good. He knows how to battle for position, has good footwork on both ends of the court, he plays good team defense and his athleticism combined with his wingspan could make him a serious shot blocking prescence. I think if he practices his jumpshot, gets stronger, works out with Agguire he could, and is encouraged to go for the block(he's too smart to risk his defensive position to go for the block but he could be a good shot blocker if he really wanted to) he could be an all around great center on both defense and offense.</div> I didn't know he was that good of a defender. He doesn't seem to compliment Sweetney well though. He sounds decent, but I like the 7'2 and Nemanja better. Nemanja is just a great shooter and once Allan comes back, him and Nem along with a post threat in Sweetney (Imagine him in another offseason!) along with a good PG (if we have one.) That team right there would be pretty solid. If not Nems, I really like the 7'2 he seems to be really promising. What do you like about Splitter more than him? By all means necessary, we need Bogut.
Assuming that we get a relatively high pick in the draft, would you package some of our picks from the deadline plus our lottery and Sweetney for a guranteed Andrew Bogut?
a little much <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Assuming that we get a relatively high pick in the draft, would you package some of our picks from the deadline plus our lottery and Sweetney for a guranteed Andrew Bogut?</div> I would package sweetney, and our lottery pick for Bogut but anything else is too much.
I wouldn't package sweetney with anything to get Bogut. If we cant draft him I dont think we should trade Sweetney for him especially since we've never seen him play at the NBA level. Thats a rsik that we really have no reason to take.
I don't know, Bogut played in the Olympics so he is pretty mature, but I thought Sweetney should be enough. He is a great player and when give minutes he produces. I just don't understand why people love to knock on him for.
If the New York Knicks could package a trade with Michael Sweetney in order to get Andrew Bogut, it must be done. I know people will say Andrew Bogut hasn't played on the NBA level, but whatever this guy is a better passer, shooter, has more post moves, and if he isn't as good of a rebounder, I'm sure in time he'll prove to be. Andrew Bogut is better than Michael Sweetney, and will be, and if he could land in New York, that would be huge for the New York Knicks. Though I doubt it will happen, but wishful thinking always brings in positive thoughts, lol. Don't get me wrong though, I am big on Mike Sweetney, and I think he brings a nice rebounding game with him, and given time I'm sure he can produce, I just wish he had more range on that jumpshot of his. But I regard him highly in my books.
Yeah, but Sweetney is come along with that eventually. Probably next year. Last year he was working on post moves and stuff like reverse layups and stuff. He has a little fade away but it's when he's posting up. Once he gets a good jumpshot mark my words...it's a wrap! He'd be tearing it up. He'll work on that this coming summer and once he gets that it's over. I think he has one of the best post games among young players in the league. Some of the stuff he does has my eyes in shock! Now I am 100% confident when he posts up anyone.
^Do you think he will develop into a poor man's Elton Brand? Personally I don't. I think he'll be just as good.
