<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dan Le:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes master, i'm sorry i've displeased you, next time i'll do exactly what you tell me because your all the hope I have left, are your shoes polished enough? I'm not bashing, i'm stating what is really happening he was 0-4 again today, I may sound harsh, but that's reality i'm not a blinded Rocket fan that see's positives in everything, what do you recommend I say? "Wesley hit a shot against the Hornets! it was great! I hope he hits one tonight!".</div> LMAO! I think some people just don't know when to quit. I don't see Wesley being more than half as good as he was for the Rockets last season. Okay, I may be exaggerating, but seriously, he wasn't that great a player last year and this year he is really playing like crap. If Wesley didn't step on the floor tonight, I think we would have won todays game.
Shooting involves jumping. Jumping invloves knees. And David Wesleys knees involve surgery from the offseason. Just give Wesley time. It's not easy to recover from surgery, especially at Wesleys age. Just wait for him to get his knees back and i'm sure he'll be back to his normal self. Last year Wesley was one of the great trades that Houston made. Now people dont want him and want him traded. Everyone just chill. 3 Games Played 1-2 Record 79 Games to go
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dan Le:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes master, i'm sorry i've displeased you, next time i'll do exactly what you tell me because your all the hope I have left, are your shoes polished enough? I'm not bashing, i'm stating what is really happening he was 0-4 again today, I may sound harsh, but that's reality i'm not a blinded Rocket fan that see's positives in everything, what do you recommend I say? "Wesley hit a shot against the Hornets! it was great! I hope he hits one tonight!".</div> I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to tracyandyao, he's been doing way too much Wesley bashing lately. Good defense is like scoring points, whats the use of a 20 point game, if the guy you're defending puts up 50?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JuLiO-R-:</div><div class="quote_post"> 3 Games Played 1-2 Record 79 Games to go</div> True, but we most likely will lose all the road games vs the streaks of playoff teams before T-mac comes back.
Well the Rockets must learn to play without TMac. The following road games would be beneficial for them to test their team chemistry. They should not focus their fate on TMac alone. Everyone should contribute on the offense not just rely on Yao's post up plays. The Rockets offensive plays are predictable that opposing teams take advantage of it. They don't have problems adjusting their defensive strategies because they know where the ball will go. With Tmac gone the main focus is on Yao while the rest scrambles on who will take the shots. Wesley looks to be the worst shooter in the league missing tons of good shots. Derek Anderson should make his presence felt while Swift should look for better positioning because he's always out of it. When either Yao or Swift post up neither one of them positions well on grabbing offensive rebounds or loose balls. Opposing teams would probably use the same two guard attack strategy which the Rockets find it difficult to defend. The Hornets and the Magic has been successful with it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chineseafro:</div><div class="quote_post">I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to tracyandyao, he's been doing way too much Wesley bashing lately. Good defense is like scoring points, whats the use of a 20 point game, if the guy you're defending puts up 50?</div> Oh right, in that case I apologize..and shame and you tracyandyao! (just joking man haha) Eh it was a bad loss, no one played well besides maybe Rafer who almost got a triple double.. Also anyone else think Luther should play more minutes? he's really impressed me..
how does houston expect to get past the second round when they can't get past two 2nd rate teams? i know you'll say tmac was injured, but theres a possibility he'll be injured during the playoffs as well and througout the season, then what will the rox do?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">how does houston expect to get past the second round when they can't get past two 2nd rate teams? i know you'll say tmac was injured, but theres a possibility he'll be injured during the playoffs as well and througout the season, then what will the rox do?</div> Ok, here we go....[crunches fingers] Michael Jordan injured while the Bulls were winning = Bulls can't even make it past the 1st round of the playoffs. MJ is far greater than T-Mac. T-Mac and Yao is what we built our offense around, mainly T-Mac. Minnesota w/o KG will not go anywhere. Spurs (last year, not sure about this year) cannot win games or make it to the WCF w/o TD Bold statements? Sure. True statements? Will we ever know. w/o our superstar/30% of our salary cap, we are nothing but a team that could possibly make it to the 8th seed. And hey, why the hell would you say something that friggin retar...
You are probably right igotask8board, but Bulls were able to reach PFs without problems while Rockets seems to be a very poor team without T-Mac. We don't have players able to give the ball to Yao and bad enough, we don't have players who can score good points. Before trading James we had to think about injuries. Sorry 4 my english.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok, here we go....[crunches fingers] Michael Jordan injured while the Bulls were winning = Bulls can't even make it past the 1st round of the playoffs. </div> the bulls made it to the eastern conference finals the year mike took off. the spurs would make it past the 1st round even without tim. the heat are still winning games without shaq right now, its obvious the rox haven't improved as much as people assumed in the pre-season.
We are an 6-8 place team without TMac. But I thought everyone knew that. This is going to be a big test for these role players to step up and bench players to show their worth because JVG is looking for any combinations that works. If L.Head can get his J going he will surely take all Wesley's minutes. That knee is going to take a while to get back to full strength, where he can get his shot going.
I think the Rockets aren't a playoff team without TMac. Yao, as we have seen, isn't ready to take the leadership role yet and there is no reliable second scorer on the team. The loss to the Magic last night was tragic, but I'm kind of glad it happened because it put things in perspective. The Rockets still need some solid rebounders besides Yao, not to mention Houston is far from a contender without TMac. Once McGrady is out, the Rockets are a marginal playoff team at best. Hopefully some people will begin to lose their overly optimistic outlooks and give some honest and down-to-earth insight for the team, instead of saying 60 wins. As for Wesley, players go into slumps. He was in a shooting slump midway through last season as well, and he shot his way out of it. If you keep him on the bench, he might never get that shot back again. Shooters have to keep shooting and Wesley brings more to the table than just shooting. Just because he can't hit threes doesn't mean he's worthless to the team. It's three games into the season, don't get on his back about it too much yet.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JuLiO-R-:</div><div class="quote_post">Shooting involves jumping. Jumping invloves knees. And David Wesleys knees involve surgery from the offseason. Just give Wesley time. It's not easy to recover from surgery, especially at Wesleys age. Just wait for him to get his knees back and i'm sure he'll be back to his normal self. Last year Wesley was one of the great trades that Houston made. Now people dont want him and want him traded. Everyone just chill.</div> Okay (big sigh.......... ). At this point in his career, Wesley is trash. I saw this coming in the offseason. 2 or 3 months before the season, I stated that we should get rid of him and get a more traditional shooting guard. 3 games in the regular season, the guy is 2-15 from the field, can't play D, and is turnover prone (like I stated before). Teams are purposley running away from him PRAYING he shoots. Head came in and outshined anything Wesley has done all season in about 10 minutes. Keep in mind, Wesley is getting the best looks he's ever got. You making excuses for him sounds like soooooo lame. If he is hurt, he DAMN SHO doesn't need to be on the court. Simple as that. Either trade him, or bench him. Right now, his AWFUL play is hurting the team.......................
Tmac is what makes this team click, and the Rockets are a bottom 3 team in the west without him. If Yao was injured instead of Tmac, I know you would be 3-0, but at leastthis gives the team a chance to gel without their best player just in case his back bothers him later on this season. About Wesley, give the man a chance, it's only three games in and he's in a shooters slump. He is not a bad defender, and he did not lose the Rockets that game. He just came off surgery, so he needs some time to get his shot back. Rock4life: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Igotaskateboard is right on point. The Rockets aren't going to start off17-17. If you haven't noticed, this year we ain't got Charlie "Pre-historic" Ward starting as point guard. Tmac knows his role unlike the start of last year. Yao is more polished than ever. The role players are also alot better than last year. So anybody who thinks we're going to start off horrific isn't being realistic. We might struggle a couple of games, but expect us to start off really solid.</div> I remembered writing in this thread (This is our Year) and remember shaking my head at some of the posts. I told myself that I'd bring this up to you and skateboard. Tmac out, Rockets 1-2. 17-17 might not be impossible now is it? Still question the integrity of those fans who were a little more conservative?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">ITS obvious the rox haven't improved as much as people assumed in the pre-season.</div> YOUD LOVE THAT crap all caps...youd love that wouldnt you? that or you want that. The rockets have improved. Give them time to click. People were angry because I based how much they improved because of the new acquisations, and preseason games. You are basing your opinion on 2 games that we had in the book, without our star player. Both have very fast guards as well. If T mac was playing...who cares im just gona stfu and wait...Let the Rockets prove you wrong, and not me. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the Rockets aren't a playoff team without TMac. Yao, as we have seen, isn't ready to take the leadership role yet and there is no reliable second scorer on the team. The loss to the Magic last night was tragic, but I'm kind of glad it happened because it put things in perspective. The Rockets still need some solid rebounders besides Yao, not to mention Houston is far from a contender without TMac. Once McGrady is out, the Rockets are a marginal playoff team at best. Hopefully some people will begin to lose their overly optimistic outlooks and give some honest and down-to-earth insight for the team, instead of saying 60 wins. As for Wesley, players go into slumps. He was in a shooting slump midway through last season as well, and he shot his way out of it. If you keep him on the bench, he might never get that shot back again. Shooters have to keep shooting and Wesley brings more to the table than just shooting. Just because he can't hit threes doesn't mean he's worthless to the team. It's three games into the season, don't get on his back about it too much yet.</div> sorry for dp. I wouldt go as far and say that they are not even a playoff team without mcgrady. At least give them time to prove what they are. We have been rebuilding this team for the last like what 6-8 years? Let Jeff figure out an offense that works without Mcgrady. When you have mcgrady in your lineup, your offense is a heck of a lot better. If the game plan messes up the rockets can at least get the ball to tmac and yao. When they have to double 2 players on one team, other players get wide open looks. Which makes them that much better. I think it is a good and bad thing that T mac is out. The bad is obvious, but like you said, atleast we can see what the rest of the team can accomplish w/o him. We get to see if Yao can handle pressure down the stretch, if he can step up and lead the team, if other players can step up and accomplish something. sorry if i was incoherent during this post...(random excuse here)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Okay (big sigh.......... ). At this point in his career, Wesley is trash. I saw this coming in the offseason. 2 or 3 months before the season, I stated that we should get rid of him and get a more traditional shooting guard. 3 games in the regular season, the guy is 2-15 from the field, can't play D, and is turnover prone (like I stated before). Teams are purposley running away from him PRAYING he shoots. Head came in and outshined anything Wesley has done all season in about 10 minutes. Keep in mind, Wesley is getting the best looks he's ever got. You making excuses for him sounds like soooooo lame. If he is hurt, he DAMN SHO doesn't need to be on the court. Simple as that. Either trade him, or bench him. Right now, his AWFUL play is hurting the team.......................</div> You know, you were right all along, and I'm man enough to admit when I was wrong...Wesley IS hurting the team...How he's not in JVG's doghouse already is beyond me...Head is playing well and is a lot more effective...even Bowen shows heart and hustle out there...but Wesley's minutes need to be cut because he has not positively affected the team yet...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">I remembered writing in this thread (This is our Year) and remember shaking my head at some of the posts. I told myself that I'd bring this up to you and skateboard. Tmac out, Rockets 1-2. 17-17 might not be impossible now is it? Still question the integrity of those fans who were a little more conservative?</div> Haha...........not so fast. The Rockets won't be 17-17. They'll eventually find they're niche. It's just a small adjustment period. I give them 5 more games, and they'll be ok. Nobody knew Tmac would be injured so early. Expect the Rockets to get better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">YOUD LOVE THAT crap all caps...youd love that wouldnt you? that or you want that. </div> no i'm actually a rox supporter, i just don't like people over hyping teams. it just makes it worst for the team when they get into rough patches. swift wasn't the answer for the rockets they needed to focus on their backcourt.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> no i'm actually a rox supporter, i just don't like people over hyping teams. it just makes it worst for the team when they get into rough patches. swift wasn't the answer for the rockets they needed to focus on their backcourt.</div> Keep in my at that time that Bob Sura was presumed healthy and Mike James was still on the team. Plus, we just resigned Barry and drafted Head, I don't think anyone predicted that Wesley would be suffering horribly on court due to his knees, Bob Sura might be missing the entire season, and McGrady would be injured for three weeks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">no i'm actually a rox supporter, i just don't like people over hyping teams. it just makes it worst for the team when they get into rough patches. swift wasn't the answer for the rockets they needed to focus on their backcourt.</div> Well Aznxballer did a nice job of handling this one. Also, when we acquired Swift we were not sure if Howard could even play anymore. We needed a PF that could at least carry 35 minutes at that position. Swift fit in very well. Howard turned out fine. Now our PF spot should be stable throughout the year. and if there were any year to hype the rockets (within the past 11 years) its this one for sure. That is unless you were foolish enought to think Charles and Pippen could bringus a championship, with an injured Hakeem. This is our time to shine. We should make it to WCF, and if we don't make it there than someone didn't do there job right.
